Poxy Weather

[V8Druid]

One close to me
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seen a few like that before ....... planners should be parked in the middle of it all ... in concrete wellies, 'til it goes down ..... tossers

 

[Left hooker]

We dont get to much flooding as up country but we still get the rain and wind but we do get the issues of shafts opening up after prolonged wet periods
Be digging this one out end of the week

 

[V8Druid]

just seen these ...... forest of dean

 

[pettsy]

posted on Facebook...

 

[V8Druid]

posted on Facebook...
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I know that planning is getting harder and harder to get ... and this tiny island is running out of places to build on ..... but building on low lying, high risk sites, has got to stop ..... or .... levels MUST be raised/buildings must be stilted and infrastructure suitably mitigated
this sort of weather and events are obviously going to be 'the norm' , going forward, BTLs and simply allowing this s**t to go on, year on year has got to come to an end .... the clear up costs, financially and emotionally are just waaaay too great and far out weigh dealing with mitigation in the first place

 

[TiltyShaun]

Another local photo

 

[Rob 210]

I know that planning is getting harder and harder to get ... and this tiny island is running out of places to build on ..... but building on low lying, high risk sites, has got to stop ..... or .... levels MUST be raised/buildings must be stilted and infrastructure suitably mitigated
this sort of weather and events are obviously going to be 'the norm' , going forward, BTLs and simply allowing this s**t to go on, year on year has got to come to an end .... the clear up costs, financially and emotionally are just waaaay too great and far out weigh dealing with mitigation in the first place

Totally agree Mr D.
even worse for the poor people who have already bought their house,and now have been flooded
If they want to sell,who would want to buy it,and if you decide to stay put how much would your house insurance be If you could find a company to touch you with a barge pole(No pun intended)

 

[Brendan]

so this area is known to have flooded twice in 75 years so by my calcs thats every 32.5 years it has flooded which equates to a 32% of flooding in 100 years.
The odds are too high for me to live there

Wouldn't that be around 3% chance of flooding for every 100 years?

 

[Brendan]

Not really had it too bad where I am, job we went to near Leicester had one road blocked off due to flooding, although managed to get through with the trailer, although there was one guy broken down in the middle and two others broke down just out of the water. Have had to cancel two jobs though which has been a bit s**t.

 

[Jimoz]

Who's looked into it. This has got to be the most miserable oct-feb ever in terms of constant drizzle/rain

 

[fred]

i dont think we have has a single dry week since september.

Bet the site dewatering boys are making a small fortune.

 

[TiltyShaun]

Finished a job in the middle of September which had only rained when I was on my hols. I was talking to the client at the end of Jan, he said since I finished he had not had 2 consecutive dry days until Christmas and New Year when no one was on site!! It feels at the moment we don’t get 2 consecutive hours of dry time!!

 

[Gunners]

I know that planning is getting harder and harder to get ... and this tiny island is running out of places to build on ..... but building on low lying, high risk sites, has got to stop ..... or .... levels MUST be raised/buildings must be stilted and infrastructure suitably mitigated
this sort of weather and events are obviously going to be 'the norm' , going forward, BTLs and simply allowing this s**t to go on, year on year has got to come to an end .... the clear up costs, financially and emotionally are just waaaay too great and far out weigh dealing with mitigation in the first place

Having built a site on a flood plain, I can tell you there are quite a few regulations to jump through and things are quite carefully considered. Or at least they were with the developer I worked for. We built 14 houses in Chertsey - the year Chertsey was underwater and the army had to be called in. I know what we did worked because we were under 2ft of water at one time! The regulations around not building up ground artificially, stopping foul pipes from backing up into the house and allowing the free flow of flood water around the houses was all thought out and a necessity of the planning. Just so happens the one in 100 year flood event happened the year we were building it. So it is thought about when planning is granted on these higher risk land parcels, it just might not be enough.

I think what we are experiencing is beyond what those in the planning department/ environment agency foresaw and lessons will be learnt from this winter. The question is, how high do we build the defences because if this constant wet weather is to become a regular occurrence, there's no point building them to this years watermark - they almost need doubling. I know the EA are investing in improving flood defence as I've been asked to tender for some of the jobs. This was before this winters rain. So it is happening, just without the fanfare the papers expect.

The pictures below show some of the details we had to incorporate into the build. The oversite had a 450mm void under the floor with "vents" to allow flood water to enter under the building and recede without causing any damage. The floors of the void were concreted and laid to falls to allow the water to flow out. Even the perimeter wall had vents in to allow water to flow through. It was all thought out.

 

[Grahams]

Having built a site on a flood plain, I can tell you there are quite a few regulations to jump through and things are quite carefully considered. Or at least they were with the developer I worked for. We built 14 houses in Chertsey - the year Chertsey was underwater and the army had to be called in. I know what we did worked because we were under 2ft of water at one time! The regulations around not building up ground artificially, stopping foul pipes from backing up into the house and allowing the free flow of flood water around the houses was all thought out and a necessity of the planning. Just so happens the one in 100 year flood event happened the year we were building it. So it is thought about when planning is granted on these higher risk land parcels, it just might not be enough.

I think what we are experiencing is beyond what those in the planning department/ environment agency foresaw and lessons will be learnt from this winter. The question is, how high do we build the defences because if this constant wet weather is to become a regular occurrence, there's no point building them to this years watermark - they almost need doubling. I know the EA are investing in improving flood defence as I've been asked to tender for some of the jobs. This was before this winters rain. So it is happening, just without the fanfare the papers expect.

The pictures below show some of the details we had to incorporate into the build. The oversite had a 450mm void under the floor with "vents" to allow flood water to enter under the building and recede without causing any damage. The floors of the void were concreted and laid to falls to allow the water to flow out. Even the perimeter wall had vents in to allow water to flow through. It was all thought out.

I’m glad the planning is more thought out than it initially looks, but I would still rather not live on a flood plain.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Having built a site on a flood plain, I can tell you there are quite a few regulations to jump through and things are quite carefully considered. Or at least they were with the developer I worked for. We built 14 houses in Chertsey - the year Chertsey was underwater and the army had to be called in. I know what we did worked because we were under 2ft of water at one time! The regulations around not building up ground artificially, stopping foul pipes from backing up into the house and allowing the free flow of flood water around the houses was all thought out and a necessity of the planning. Just so happens the one in 100 year flood event happened the year we were building it. So it is thought about when planning is granted on these higher risk land parcels, it just might not be enough.

I think what we are experiencing is beyond what those in the planning department/ environment agency foresaw and lessons will be learnt from this winter. The question is, how high do we build the defences because if this constant wet weather is to become a regular occurrence, there's no point building them to this years watermark - they almost need doubling. I know the EA are investing in improving flood defence as I've been asked to tender for some of the jobs. This was before this winters rain. So it is happening, just without the fanfare the papers expect.

The pictures below show some of the details we had to incorporate into the build. The oversite had a 450mm void under the floor with "vents" to allow flood water to enter under the building and recede without causing any damage. The floors of the void were concreted and laid to falls to allow the water to flow out. Even the perimeter wall had vents in to allow water to flow through. It was all thought out.

Surely after a flood there would be a load of silt left behind under the houses? Also looks a good place for rats etc...

 

[GazCro]

I don't like the way they talk about these flood events as 1 in 50 years 1 in 100 years etc. The whole thing about the weather is it doesn't follow these rules if it rains enough you get floods. Some of the figures they talk about are just to confuse people and keep them quiet. In keswick where i live we had a flood in 2005 which was a supposed 1 in 50 year flood. This was followed in 2009 by what they then called a 1 in 75 year flood. After this they spent £6 million on flood defences which they were told would make the flooding worse. In 2015 we got the worst flood of the three, if you can see where this is going they called this a 1 in 100 year flood but this was to hide the fact the flood defences backed the water further back into the town. We've been lucky this time and avoided the worst of the weather or at least not seen anywhere near enough to give us problems. It's good to see somewhere where it looks like they've building some actual thought and planning to cope, just hope it works.

 

[jd6820]

You will find conversation management and reserves rarely interfere with the main watercourses. Flood plains are over rated IMHO, get the channels flowing out to sea. As mentioned clear the main channels and get the water gone!

Same with the moorland crap.... I can see the advantages, no wait I can't when it comes to flooding.

Can't agree with this enough! Why build flood defences when they don't dredge the current water courses. Yes higher bankings may hold the current water level back but as the silt rises we are back to square one. The environment agency don't clear the ditches round us and we've set to ourselves. Already dropped our ditch levels a good couple of foot just clearing one stretch of main ditch leading to outflow. Madness!

 

[TiltyShaun]

Having built a site on a flood plain, I can tell you there are quite a few regulations to jump through and things are quite carefully considered. Or at least they were with the developer I worked for. We built 14 houses in Chertsey - the year Chertsey was underwater and the army had to be called in. I know what we did worked because we were under 2ft of water at one time! The regulations around not building up ground artificially, stopping foul pipes from backing up into the house and allowing the free flow of flood water around the houses was all thought out and a necessity of the planning. Just so happens the one in 100 year flood event happened the year we were building it. So it is thought about when planning is granted on these higher risk land parcels, it just might not be enough.

I think what we are experiencing is beyond what those in the planning department/ environment agency foresaw and lessons will be learnt from this winter. The question is, how high do we build the defences because if this constant wet weather is to become a regular occurrence, there's no point building them to this years watermark - they almost need doubling. I know the EA are investing in improving flood defence as I've been asked to tender for some of the jobs. This was before this winters rain. So it is happening, just without the fanfare the papers expect.

The pictures below show some of the details we had to incorporate into the build. The oversite had a 450mm void under the floor with "vents" to allow flood water to enter under the building and recede without causing any damage. The floors of the void were concreted and laid to falls to allow the water to flow out. Even the perimeter wall had vents in to allow water to flow through. It was all thought out.

Nice work, but thank you but no thank you!! As others are adding to this thread I looked at a house that sold in 2007 before the big flood for £400k....had the chance to buy it in 2010 for less than £100k....thank you but no thank you. The water has been through the windows twice in the last 3 months!! When the water level is down, I will take some photos of there latest flood defence....higher window culls!!

 

[GazCro]

Nice work, but thank you but no thank you!! As others are adding to this thread I looked at a house that sold in 2007 before the big flood for £400k....had the chance to buy it in 2010 for less than £100k....thank you but no thank you. The water has been through the windows twice in the last 3 months!! When the water level is down, I will take some photos of there latest flood defence....higher window culls!!

I wouldn't mind if the house prices here reflected the fact that they flood but it barely makes much difference unfortunately. Can take a while to sell sometimes but get 2 or 3 years after a flood and usually sell. Pity those that buy them if they're unaware.

 

[Left hooker]

Not really the right thread but as I put the shaft sinking pic above thought I'd show progress so far stripped the soil then went about clearing out the shaft to see where the rock head was ended up 3.5m down to good ground