Electric vehicles

V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Would we want to .. 😆
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" There's a gas-fed 2.5-liter engine that produces 277 horsepower and 311 pound-feet of torque or a diesel 2.2-liter mill that makes 207 horses and 325 pound-feet. The gas engine pairs exclusively with an eight-speed automatic, which is also offered with the diesel along with three pedals and a six-speed manual transmission. ....... the Tasman can tow .. 7716 pounds/3500kgs "
 
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Brendan

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What's people's opinions on used electric cars?
Car is at that age and value where the bits that need sorting are going to be close to half the value of the car, options are spend a few k and get something around 10 years old or spend a fair bit more and get something 4 or 5 years old. Diesel is a no go as mileage is going to be little so it's petrol, hybrid or full electric
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
What's people's opinions on used electric cars?
Car is at that age and value where the bits that need sorting are going to be close to half the value of the car, options are spend a few k and get something around 10 years old or spend a fair bit more and get something 4 or 5 years old. Diesel is a no go as mileage is going to be little so it's petrol, hybrid or full electric
if you do your own servicing and maintenance, then petrol it is -- if you don't, you're gonna wanna know who in you area is capable of doing absolutely anything to whatever you consider buying - hybrid or full electric will almost certainly be main stealer :oops::oops::oops:
 
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Brendan

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if you do your own servicing and maintenance, then petrol it is -- if you don't, you're gonna wanna know who in you area is capable of doing absolutely anything to whatever you consider buying - hybrid or full electric will almost certainly be main stealer :oops::oops::oops:
Normally do all my own services, brakes, suspension, engine swaps and whatever else, but more recently odd jobs have taken the "sod it someone else can do it" attitude. Was mainly for oil changes on the ranger as, by the time I bought 10l of oil plus the filter it was only another £15 or so for them to do it, just wasn't worth the hassle (although the last time I went the price increase was enough for it to be the last time)
One of the few bits on the list that the Smax needs, is a replacement power steering rack which a pattern part is fairly cheap and got a mate will put it on the ramp and swap it and do the tracking for £100 which is firmly in the someone elses problem camp, although I will then probably end up having to change the pump, lines and tank as it's also whining.
 
pettsy

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Apparently electric unicycles are the way forward 🫣

 
kabin man

kabin man

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Apparently electric unicycles are the way forward 🫣

she is all over youtube, often seen 'testing' mono wheel scooters with other girls..(so i have been told) :unsure:

 
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Brendan

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Been looking at some ev cars mostly as they are similar priced to same size/year/milage as petrol or hybrid. Anyone had any experience with either the model y or the VW id4?
Been looking at the model y but most of the ads seem to have 50% of the pics as just images of their workshops/reviews/other actual car they are selling rubbish. I just don't get places they are trying to sell motors north of 20k and on one side only putting up 4 pics or on the other side 50 pics of a car on a turntable
 
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Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Been looking at some ev cars mostly as they are similar priced to same size/year/milage as petrol or hybrid. Anyone had any experience with either the model y or the VW id4?
Been looking at the model y but most of the ads seem to have 50% of the pics as just images of their workshops/reviews/other actual car they are selling rubbish. I just don't get places they are trying to sell motors north of 20k and on one side only putting up 4 pics or on the other side 50 pics of a car on a turntable
They'll likely all be ex-company cars ex lease etc
Ran by folks whose only reason for having it was the tax savings treated like crap.
Why do you think not many pics? Parts are a rip off bodywork a nightmare.

Teslas suspension needs very close examination especially the model 3. Cousin was quoted 2.5k on a 3 year old car just out of warranty... mechanic at Tesla said sell it quick and say nowt.

My opinion...run a mile they are a disposable designed to last 3 years of lease company ownership item.
 
pettsy

pettsy

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Customer of mine bought a 2yr old ID3 I think it is. Likes it but not long after buying dashboard just went blank and obviously wouldn’t work. Fortunately had warranty with place he bought it from so it went into VW for about 4 weeks while they figured what was wrong and did a load of software updates. Like most modern cars, wouldn’t fancy one out of warranty!
 
kabin man

kabin man

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Been looking at some ev cars mostly as they are similar priced to same size/year/milage as petrol or hybrid. Anyone had any experience with either the model y or the VW id4?
Been looking at the model y but most of the ads seem to have 50% of the pics as just images of their workshops/reviews/other actual car they are selling rubbish. I just don't get places they are trying to sell motors north of 20k and on one side only putting up 4 pics or on the other side 50 pics of a car on a turntable
I have a cupra born as a company car, its a id3 with different trim in reality. We have a few ID 4 on the firm and the only difference i can see is the size, its a fair bit bigger. Other than the range issues, i am/was fairly happy with it.
BUT last week the mrs got a tesla model 3. My opinion has changed massively. I understand the price difference, but the technology/ride/enjoyment of the Tesla make the Cupra/id3 look ancient.They are very much 1st gen products and i would say they were a couple of years behind the curve. The cupra i have is a 2023. When i ordered it i had to wait 10 months, on the week of delivery VW announced the revised version..The newer one has quite a few improvements and tweaks etc. What im getting at is elec cars are such a new and evolving market, the obsolence will be massive compared to what we have seen traditionally in the combustion world. The Cupra thing i have barely gives 200 mls range, the newer ones have improved drastically. The Tesla we have is the LR version, its been returning 350 miles of 'spirited' driving..
The cupra thing was 42000 at new price, there are some on Auto trader at 20k-same thing 2023 plate.
IF you can afford it, id say go electric. I seldom charge away from home, so an overnight home charge works for me fine. I am not on a car charging friendly account, so the savings could easily halve for me if i were to set this up..
 
kabin man

kabin man

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This is at 24p a KW, the octopus car tariff is low as 8p, so the cost in pic would be nearer £11. It works or me and i'm enjoying not visiting petrol stations, BUT charging on the road is s**t and time consuming, worse if you are paying privately. Its a rip off of around 80-90p a KW at m way services, but the firm are paying this so it works for me.

I am not a Tesla fan boy at all, but in this case it works ok for us..
I will add the story of my s**t experience with Tesla when i get a moment. Its only cos the Mrs really wanted one that i went back to them after being treated like a bit of s**t a few months back... :oops:
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Smiffy

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I have a cupra born as a company car, its a id3 with different trim in reality. We have a few ID 4 on the firm and the only difference i can see is the size, its a fair bit bigger. Other than the range issues, i am/was fairly happy with it.
BUT last week the mrs got a tesla model 3. My opinion has changed massively. I understand the price difference, but the technology/ride/enjoyment of the Tesla make the Cupra/id3 look ancient.They are very much 1st gen products and i would say they were a couple of years behind the curve. The cupra i have is a 2023. When i ordered it i had to wait 10 months, on the week of delivery VW announced the revised version..The newer one has quite a few improvements and tweaks etc. What im getting at is elec cars are such a new and evolving market, the obsolence will be massive compared to what we have seen traditionally in the combustion world. The Cupra thing i have barely gives 200 mls range, the newer ones have improved drastically. The Tesla we have is the LR version, its been returning 350 miles of 'spirited' driving..
The cupra thing was 42000 at new price, there are some on Auto trader at 20k-same thing 2023 plate.
IF you can afford it, id say go electric. I seldom charge away from home, so an overnight home charge works for me fine. I am not on a car charging friendly account, so the savings could easily halve for me if i were to set this up..

It's ridiculous when you consider the 2cv was in production for 50 years with surprisingly few changes
The Morris minor 2 years, the mini 30 years.
The last landrover defender built in 2016 can share bulkhead repair components and swap doors with the series 2 built in 1958
 
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Brendan

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I have a cupra born as a company car, its a id3 with different trim in reality. We have a few ID 4 on the firm and the only difference i can see is the size, its a fair bit bigger. Other than the range issues, i am/was fairly happy with it.
BUT last week the mrs got a tesla model 3. My opinion has changed massively. I understand the price difference, but the technology/ride/enjoyment of the Tesla make the Cupra/id3 look ancient.They are very much 1st gen products and i would say they were a couple of years behind the curve. The cupra i have is a 2023. When i ordered it i had to wait 10 months, on the week of delivery VW announced the revised version..The newer one has quite a few improvements and tweaks etc. What im getting at is elec cars are such a new and evolving market, the obsolence will be massive compared to what we have seen traditionally in the combustion world. The Cupra thing i have barely gives 200 mls range, the newer ones have improved drastically. The Tesla we have is the LR version, its been returning 350 miles of 'spirited' driving..
The cupra thing was 42000 at new price, there are some on Auto trader at 20k-same thing 2023 plate.
IF you can afford it, id say go electric. I seldom charge away from home, so an overnight home charge works for me fine. I am not on a car charging friendly account, so the savings could easily halve for me if i were to set this up..
To be fair it's more than we originally wanted to spend but our smax is needing bits doing that could easily surpass it's value as it's only worth sub 3k, I know repairs are still only 10-20% of what the cars we are looking at buying but it's a 2008 with 97k on the clock and starting to show it's age plus any engine parts come with a st/rs tax. Did originally looking at spending a lot less but means dropping 15k+ for something newer but similar miles so that started the slippery slope of going newer/less miles and currently we are looking at 2022 vehicles the model y is a bit more than id4 for similar mileages.

There seems to be a fair amount of the dual motor long range available for under 25k with anywhere between 25-40k on the clock so still a year of Tesla warranty. Have read about suspension issues but all seems to be covered under warranty so not too worried on that front. My moan about the pics was mostly a lack of showing what the vehicle has there's 3 auto pilots and no way to tell which version without the pic of the information screen, that and putting 6 or no pics is plain stupid when they are trying to sell something.
Have read the id4 has touch buttons at the bottom of the centre screen to control volume/temp/fans but don't light up at night I suppose it's not an issue after a while once you kind of know where they are.
Warranty seems to be longer on the battery and motor on the model y upto 8 years/120k so would be worrying free on that front for 4 years Vs the VW which I think only is battery for 8 years/100k and motor is on the standard warranty timeframe
 
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Smiffy

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To be fair it's more than we originally wanted to spend but our smax is needing bits doing that could easily surpass it's value as it's only worth sub 3k, I know repairs are still only 10-20% of what the cars we are looking at buying but it's a 2008 with 97k on the clock and starting to show it's age plus any engine parts come with a st/rs tax. Did originally looking at spending a lot less but means dropping 15k+ for something newer but similar miles so that started the slippery slope of going newer/less miles and currently we are looking at 2022 vehicles the model y is a bit more than id4 for similar mileages.

There seems to be a fair amount of the dual motor long range available for under 25k with anywhere between 25-40k on the clock so still a year of Tesla warranty. Have read about suspension issues but all seems to be covered under warranty so not too worried on that front. My moan about the pics was mostly a lack of showing what the vehicle has there's 3 auto pilots and no way to tell which version without the pic of the information screen, that and putting 6 or no pics is plain stupid when they are trying to sell something.
Have read the id4 has touch buttons at the bottom of the centre screen to control volume/temp/fans but don't light up at night I suppose it's not an issue after a while once you kind of know where they are.
Warranty seems to be longer on the battery and motor on the model y upto 8 years/120k so would be worrying free on that front for 4 years Vs the VW which I think only is battery for 8 years/100k and motor is on the standard warranty timeframe

We recently got a rav4.
Bought it mostly because of Toyotas 10 year warranty. I know the warranty isn't inflatable but my theory is they have offered a 10year warranty they have done the maths and figured it's a safe bet. The likes of Ford etc obviously feel they can only bet 3 years on themselves.
I am not the most up there with knowledge of modern cars but Im impressed by the Toyota.
Not flashy but everything just works.
And the battery has something like a 15year warranty
 
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Brendan

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We recently got a rav4.
Bought it mostly because of Toyotas 10 year warranty. I know the warranty isn't inflatable but my theory is they have offered a 10year warranty they have done the maths and figured it's a safe bet. The likes of Ford etc obviously feel they can only bet 3 years on themselves.
I am not the most up there with knowledge of modern cars but Im impressed by the Toyota.
Not flashy but everything just works.
And the battery has something like a 15year warranty
Toyota also do a get it serviced with them and you get a years warranty on any Toyota upto 10 year old and 100k, just seen an add for Suzuki offering the same sort of 10 year/100k offer
 
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