JD450A
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I would not take any video of a crusher bucket running bricks through as a good demo.
Put some Limestone in it and see what it does.....
Put some Limestone in it and see what it does.....
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Old Operator
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I suppose it depends what you wish to crush - in this area there is in old walls a lot of mudstone (a sort of sandstone found in boulder clay that was in the past used. Bricks & old concrete also common - would like to see it tackling concrete as much harder than some bricks. Genuine limestone would tend to be re used in walls as much prized rather than crushed
Crushing concrete here
Crushing concrete here
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BAV also had a prototype very small bucket
V8Druid
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I dug several beds of mudstone out when excavating my patch ....looked beautiful when stacked on the pallets in nice blocks ... couple of winters out in the weather and it's all falling apart .. also crushed a lot of the more random bits by simply rolling it under the cutting edge of my favourite Geith 3 footer with the edge flat to the nice flat millstone grit boulder I was 'assaulting' it on....
don't know whether it would've faired better, if it'd been built into a wall shortly after being dug out, but calling it 'stone' is a tad optimistic really, after the weather's been at it ... will get some pix tomorrow of the 'devastation'
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TiltyShaun
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I did have a TCP mini crusher many years ago. Great on bricks and blocks but concrete was hard work for it. Loading that TMA by hand is going to give it a painfully slow output. The TCP had teeth like the TMA. I much prefer the look and bite of the BAV range.
For many the take it away and bring in some crushed will be a better option as the labour cost of crushing can be expensive when the output is into there. But as always, for some, especially with access issues, small scale crushing will work. Some well done to TMA and BAV for developing these potential small scale solutions.
For many the take it away and bring in some crushed will be a better option as the labour cost of crushing can be expensive when the output is into there. But as always, for some, especially with access issues, small scale crushing will work. Some well done to TMA and BAV for developing these potential small scale solutions.
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Old Operator
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Sadly this mudstone is very variable in quality - it was used round here in Victorian walls held together by lime mortar mixed with coal dust & ash. It was as you say often found when working on jobs -then incorporated into builds usually toward the end when the money had been used in other ways. With only the front face exposed it sort of worked for a good while but builders would build say a 10ft high retaining wall out of it with few drain holes & no drainage material behind it - a time bomb waiting to go off. Many of these walls fail & when rebuilt in block are faced with the best? of this stuff. Hence there are piles of it everywhere - often in a place totally impractical to have trucked away, crushed, then returned. I was storing some 'ton bags' of logs with a neighbor of my dad's - the man has exactly this scenario - got boy scouts with hammers crushing & spreading a bit! while enthusiasm lasted
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I came across this machine, admittedly made in China, costs $ 6000 F O B there (£4800) but miraculously becomes £11, 000 inc vat here (so about £9K without vat) https://crytec-power.co.uk/products/crytec-tracked-mini-rock-crusher-with-conveyor-belt
Another seller is looking at £12K + vat for the same machine, amazing how we get ripped off here. Same machine on test here, shows some of the mechanism inside while being greased
Not exactly the safest or most thoughtful guy doing the test. Machine like Tigerbite only quite a bit heavier & beefier at 1350 Kg. I understand there is a choice of engines inc the Koop Yanmar Chinese clone or a 14HP B&S Vanguard petrol
I think the UK importer is basing his hopeful price on shadowing Tigerbite - way overpriced for what it is. Yes I know it is Chinese but quite a simple machine, Anybody seen one in use over here?
Andrew the tester also tests a slightly larger 1800 Kg machine - needs bigger trailer + tow vehicle. Once you get there a mini has the flow & weight to run a crusher bucket anyway.
Another seller is looking at £12K + vat for the same machine, amazing how we get ripped off here. Same machine on test here, shows some of the mechanism inside while being greased
I think the UK importer is basing his hopeful price on shadowing Tigerbite - way overpriced for what it is. Yes I know it is Chinese but quite a simple machine, Anybody seen one in use over here?
Andrew the tester also tests a slightly larger 1800 Kg machine - needs bigger trailer + tow vehicle. Once you get there a mini has the flow & weight to run a crusher bucket anyway.
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Monkeybusiness
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I flicked through the first 10 mins - the crusher, digger and operator are all shite from what I saw, not worth a wank.
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Furniss
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Agreed ...fooking painful viewing !
Storrsy
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I've seen a few of his videos and seen enough! I remember one of them he'd just bought a new tilty bucket and was digging rock with it out of a hillside bashing the bucket against it with the resulting debris all clattering down against the digger. I guess some find it entertaining
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I admit the guy was a total clown, but it was a way to see the mechanism inside the crusher. My real trouble is re. mini digger & towing vehicle, the wife wants me to do a 'day van' conversion, this limits what I can tow to either 1.5 or 2 tonne gross. Thus the machine becomes small - too small to run a crusher bucket (lift capacity on the dipper end, & sometimes flow rate) I did come up with this as an idea - seeing how the bucket was mounted on the Avant, I had seen a loader conversion on a French mini machine. https://hho.fr/godet-chargeur He takes off the dipper & mounts bucket facing out directly on boom. I did think could I get the TMA bucket mounted this way onto a machine with the flow rate & pressure to run it.
JCB 8010 has the hyd aux flow to do it - question is would the 205 Kg empty weight (+ the material being crushed) be too much. Perhaps the whole crushing thing is just beyond the cards I have been dealt. I am the only driver so no point & cannot justify two vehicles on road. At least I am now in a position to buy a place where I might keep a bit more stuff & set up another workshop in a container - I lost my last one in the family house sale. Re the Chinese crusher I think anything this small is best hand fed so you have control of what goes in, this is how I have seen other small crushers used. He was on a hiding to nothing machine filling & running all that dirt / small stuff though it
JCB 8010 has the hyd aux flow to do it - question is would the 205 Kg empty weight (+ the material being crushed) be too much. Perhaps the whole crushing thing is just beyond the cards I have been dealt. I am the only driver so no point & cannot justify two vehicles on road. At least I am now in a position to buy a place where I might keep a bit more stuff & set up another workshop in a container - I lost my last one in the family house sale. Re the Chinese crusher I think anything this small is best hand fed so you have control of what goes in, this is how I have seen other small crushers used. He was on a hiding to nothing machine filling & running all that dirt / small stuff though it
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V8Druid
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yeh he's an animal - first found him when he was building his container 'castle' .. and some of the things he got up to were !!!!!I've seen a few of his videos and seen enough! I remember one of them he'd just bought a new tilty bucket and was digging rock with it out of a hillside bashing the bucket against it with the resulting debris all clattering down against the digger. I guess some find it entertaining
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Smiffy
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What about one of these as a day van that will tow 3.5t.
Would have to double check plates but I think a 2015 should do it
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6feetdown
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I contemplated 1 on the Avant too but the cost put me off
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Found the little crusher is also sold under the name Upsen, they market a range of crushers but do not think they are the maker. Sure left to my own devices I would get a Defender or earlier L200 pick up & go bigger on both machines. Mind you I am 64 tomorrow! (do not feel it though) Feel I need to restart on a small scale & see how things go - while my parents got old / sick / passed away - so did my old contacts in the biz.
I do resent how the little machine goes from 4.8K to 11+ K as it passes through various hands, seems it has been made for a couple of years.
Dragon make a small machine £24K new & even used one £15K, makes the crusher bucket seem cheap!
I do resent how the little machine goes from 4.8K to 11+ K as it passes through various hands, seems it has been made for a couple of years.
Dragon make a small machine £24K new & even used one £15K, makes the crusher bucket seem cheap!
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