Wagon

[craig]

Rather than pack under the hydro clamps, I think I would weld uprights each side of the clamp, in side the web.

 

[Furniss]

Rather than pack under the hydro clamps, I think I would weld uprights each side of the clamp, in side the web.

Sounds like a good idea ... I'm at yard this aft and will have a look at how that would work.

 

[Shovelhands]

Sounds like a good idea ... I'm at yard this aft and will have a look at how that would work.

Does the boast always land in the same spot?

 

[Furniss]

Does the boast always land in the same spot?

Boast ?

 

[Furniss]

The hook allows movement forward/ back ....so Craig's idea would sort this

 

[Shovelhands]

Boast ?

Body!

Fukcin autocorrect

 

[Furniss]

Further titting about and maybe welding side lugs on might not be ideal ...with the movement in the hook, when you pull the body up and on and the hook reaches its stop the body can carry on towards the cab or not depending on slope etc when your loading so to have lugs welded on sufficiently close to stop movement would require checking every time you pulled body on that the hyd clamp was in right spot which is impractical.

 

[Shovelhands]

Further titting about and maybe welding side lugs on might not be ideal ...with the movement in the hook, when you pull the body up and on and the hook reaches its stop the body can carry on towards the cab or not depending on slope etc when your loading so to have lugs welded on sufficiently close to stop movement would require checking every time you pulled body on that the hyd clamp was in right spot which is impractical.

That’s what I was getting at, you can’t guarantee the body would be in the perfect position every time

 

[Shovelhands]

There is noticable movement of the skip when it's loaded slight lateral but more front/back too,think the marks near the hydr clamp may indicate extent of it.... should I weld some plates on skip so it is tight when hyd clamp is shut (but still allowing it to close fully) ?
Don't want premature wear on the pads or hook.
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What do you think chaps ?

Weld a bit of flat bar on top of flange on the chassis rail, so you are increasing the thickness of the rail at that point. The taper on the hooks should nip it sufficiently then.

 

[Furniss]

Weld a bit of flat bar on top of flange on the chassis rail, so you are increasing the thickness of the rail at that point. The taper on the hooks should nip it sufficiently then.

Splattering as we speak James

 

[Smiffy]

The two big hooks on the gear that hook into the base of the bin shouldn't allow that to happen. The telescopic part of all the ones I e used have pulled them tight into those hooks to the point you you can tip the body without the clamps done up without the body moving. In sounds like the bar one the underside of the body is slightly to far back and needs building up

 

[Furniss]

The two big hooks on the gear that hook into the base of the bin shouldn't allow that to happen. The telescopic part of all the ones I e used have pulled them tight into those hooks to the point you you can tip the body without the clamps done up without the body moving. In sounds like the bar one the underside of the body is slightly to far back and needs building up

So telescopic part pulls bin to back of cab then you clamp it onto bottom of bin, trouble is the hook has room for lots of forward backwards motion,and it seems it relies on those clamps gripping rails tight under bin and stopping it sliding about, I imagine hook has to have this tolerance to make it usable ... looks like bin rails are too thin for clamp so I have added a plate that was too thick and wouldn't alow clamps to close and spent a couple of hours grinding where it has touched/ marked it trying to shut untill I have clamps closing enough to put light out in cab.

 

[Smiffy]

So telescopic part pulls bin to back of cab then you clamp it onto bottom of bin, trouble is the hook has room for lots of forward backwards motion,and it seems it relies on those clamps gripping rails tight under bin and stopping it sliding about, I imagine hook has to have this tolerance to make it usable ... looks like bin rails are too thin for clamp so I have added a plate that was too thick and wouldn't alow clamps to close and spent a couple of hours grinding where it has touched/ marked it trying to shut untill I have clamps closing enough to put light out in cab.View attachment 37321

No there are two hooks in the bed of the gear that lock in to the body as it slides forwards. Hope this is a clear enough photo.
The ones I have used the hooks get pulled tight onto a bar in between the chassis rails of the bin as the telescopic bit is extended so that it is held tight as the body is tipped.

 

[Furniss]

No there are two hooks in the bed of the gear that lock in to the body as it slides forwards. Hope this is a clear enough photo.
The ones I have used the hooks get pulled tight onto a bar in between the chassis rails of the bin as the telescopic bit is extended so that it is held tight as the body is tipped.

Different setup here

 

[Smiffy]

Different setup here View attachment 37324View attachment 37325

Yes yours appears to have the locking hook on the left of the first pic instead.

In the second photo at the bottom of the arm looks like a bump stop. If the thickened plates don't help would a block of rubber there help??

 

[craig]

In the second photo at the bottom of the arm looks like a bump stop. If the thickened plates don't help would a block of rubber there help??

I was looking at that and thinking the same, a rubber buffer of the back of a trailer bolted to the front of the body.

 

[Furniss]

Think you are both onto the answer there im not sure that the clamp is actually intended to stop it moving forward / back - and that mount circled in the photo has a couple of holes in it so as you point out is probably intended for a bump stop of sorts.
I have a vid of the gear in action and looks like it would work, shame I can't post it here.

 

[Furniss]

 

[Furniss]

Long shot but where might you find a center console / organiser thing like the above....mine is missing I've searched but had no luck.

 

[Quattromike]

Have I not seen aftermarket ones in truck magazines or are you after OEM?