JD450A
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Captn Cetop, Why would he need a Sustainable Underground Drainage System?
Anyway, answer your bloody phone
Anyway, answer your bloody phone
Vinpetrol
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I’ve been thinking this to Fred . Duck is getting a valve fitted so I can fit one to it I’m going to hire one for a bit to see how I get on with it
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fred
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i think we will be forced down this route as finding tip sites for anything other than pristine soil means they have to drive a long ways which means £££
If we screened the stones/roots out first we could save £80 on an 8 wheeler.
Problem is all the screeners i looked at look like they work great with dry soil but not so great with the wet slop we get 99% of the time.
GazCro
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It's quite simple wet soil clags together in lumps so you can't screen it. The only way you could do anything with it would be to have a screener which chops/shreds it to some extent but then you wouldn't be screening out start you don't want in there just chopping it up and mixing it in.
Vinpetrol
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That’s why I want to hire one first to see what like
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fred
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
that gyrostar that Alex ( @Op_Alx24/7 ) with the Mec had was very good and coped well with damper stuff .... no idea what it was like with real wet stuff though ?
GazCro
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The gyrostar and the lloyd bucket are near on identical other than belt drive on gyro vs chains on lloyd as far as i know. They all use the same plastic "stars" to do the screening from potato harvesters. Gyro dearer than lloyd spec for spec when i enquired although gyrostar tried to sell me a smaller bucket which would have made them cheaper slightly than lloyd under the proviso the one i wanted was too big for my machine (even though the vid on their own website showed the bucket i wanted working on a taki 290).
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
this was Alex's .. Lloyd does ring a bell now you say it ... don't they make the gyrustar/rotastar?
Alex's was a Lloyd Nanostar, according to the pix ... came with a 3t pick up on it, but must've been a handful for a 3 tonner
Alex's was a Lloyd Nanostar, according to the pix ... came with a 3t pick up on it, but must've been a handful for a 3 tonner
GazCro
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Yeah lloyd rotastar and gyrostar two different makes of the same "star screening" bucket. I think lloyd would be the first tbh as I'm sure the family business was tattie harvesters and he modified a tattie harvester to screen some soil and adapted and engineered a bucket to do the job from that.this was Alex's .. Lloyd does ring a bell now you say it ... don't they make the gyrustar/rotastar?
Alex's was a Lloyd Nanostar, according to the pix ... came with a 3t pick up on it, but must've been a handful for a 3 tonner
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TiltyShaun
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You can deal with Matt Lloyd direct rather than paying a dealer through GyroStar. I don’t know him personally but one of my mates does. Says he has a very impressive set up and completely knows his stuff.
TiltyShaun
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I have my soil deck screener, I do contemplate selling it and would go for a Lloyd bucket as being able to screen small quantities on some of my jobs would be very useful.
JD450A
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Swap it
doobin
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Chips remove heat from the cut. The stock itself also acts as a heatsink. Whether a specific operation requires pumped coolant or not depends upon a multitude of factors such as the duty cycle, cutting tool cost and lifespan. As for 'just' stopping stuff sticking to the blade- that's the point. Stops stuff sticking, thereby reduces friction, therefore reduces head build up below the level at which I consider coolant necessary compared to the cost/lifespan of the blade. Any choice of machining process for a given job will take into consideration all these factors as well as many more such as speed, feed rate and for bandsaws the tpi.
I don't have a problem running a bandsaw dry or just waxed and neither do a lot of other fabricators. For production cutting of billets, often in an automated machine, then coolant makes sense. Otherwise for many, myself included, the mess isn't worth the hassle. I get plenty blade life out of a decent bi-metal blade. A blade for this machine is £15.65 plus VAT, it's not expensive. The beauty of a bandsaw is that you don't have to run it fast and hard, you just let it get on with the job whilst you do something else.
Left hooker
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I've got the Lloyd bucket 2nd to biggest one they do
This was an hour's trial with what ever was in the stock pile so a mix of damp and dry with some odd wet stuff
Left hooker
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Yeah got mine direct after speaking to Matt him self
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
If you are only saving £80 per 8 wheeler I would have thought you would have trouble breaking even by the time you have paid for the screen, fuel on screen and loading machine, operators time, wear and tear, then still having to dispose of the rubbish you have screened out.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
one star .... Alex did tell me what spud lifter they're out of ... were circa 6 quid each back in '18 apparently, so a few bobs-worth in a bucket, but said they last well and stand a lot of abuse
Shovelhands
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I thought they were a 40mm square?one star .... Alex did tell me what spud lifter they're out of ... were circa 6 quid each back in '18 apparently, so a few bobs-worth in a bucket, but said they last well and stand a lot of abuse
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Shovelhands
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No, thinking about it a bit harder, 50mm or 2” sounds right
iirc there is one available with a circa 70mm square, but they were mega bucks I think
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