Nissan Navara 4wd system.

[Storrsy]

Just taken the machine off it drops the rear tub by an inch over the wheels with the machine on. Probably not that bad really and the right amount of hitch weight but never the less...

 

[JD450A]

Will you ever be happy

 

[Storrsy]

Will you ever be happy

Yes. I don't think I'll ever have a problem getting the tail gate back up now so swings and roundabouts!

 

[Routy56]

So first time towing with the Navara. As you can see weight is as far back on the trailer as I can get it couldn't get a sheet of paper between the counterweight and the tailgate and its still on its arse, so thought to add these bolts to the tail gate clamp to allow more clearance and shunted the machine back another inch. It's still on its arse and only got about 100kg of tools in the back!!

My Navara tows beautifully and fairly level. I was careful to get my tow ball hitch at the right height. Otherwise a twin axle trailer will put much more nose weight on yer ball
My tow bar is a Witter double flange jobbie with the tow ball set on the top holes. But I have to be careful with getting the nose weight just right.
@V8Druid will be along soon and give you all the technical guff

Here you go - not as good as my Disco 3 HSE on air suspension but I've used it now for nearly 7 years without a problem

 

[Storrsy]

My Navara tows beautifully and fairly level. I was careful to get my tow ball hitch at the right height. Otherwise a twin axle trailer will put much more nose weight on yer ball
My tow bar is a Witter double flange jobbie with the tow ball set on the top holes. But I have to be careful with getting the nose weight just right.
@V8Druid will be along soon and give you all the technical guff

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Here you go - not as good as my Disco 3 HSE on air suspension but I've used it now for nearly 7 years without a problem

Same Tow trust tow with flange and fixed to top holes. Looking a t your setup there and the difference between front and rear arche clearance I don't think mine looked much different actually. Perhaps I'm just so used to a disco on air it's all a bit of a shock

 

[V8Druid]

My Navara tows beautifully and fairly level. I was careful to get my tow ball hitch at the right height. Otherwise a twin axle trailer will put much more nose weight on yer ball
My tow bar is a Witter double flange jobbie with the tow ball set on the top holes. But I have to be careful with getting the nose weight just right.
@V8Druid will be along soon and give you all the technical guff

centre of ball at 16" above G/L should be exerting whatever the tow bar /ball hitch is spec.ed to - no more ..
bathroom scales under the hitch - piece of 18mm ply to cover the scales deck and a bit of 1-1/2" x 1-1/ 2" cut to the correct length to fit inside yer ball, sat on the scales and see what thy say
can set it up with the jockey and then wind it up

So first time towing with the Navara. As you can see weight is as far back on the trailer as I can get it couldn't get a sheet of paper between the counterweight and the tailgate and its still on its arse, so thought to add these bolts to the tail gate clamp to allow more clearance and shunted the machine back another inch. It's still on its arse and only got about 100kg of tools in the back!!

 

[Furniss]

Yep. with rear cointerwieght machines your limited to positioning. It towed and traveled fine and didn't feel heavy on the hitch but definitely looks like an invitation to be pulled over.

Can you stop it all though

 

[Storrsy]

Can you stop it all though

Steady as she goes . I took it down a 25% slope today and she pulled up pretty quick when an Amazon van came flying round the bend!

 

[bobthebuilder]

I have a tb 125 and a indespension plant trailer,machine as close to the rear loading ramps as possible ,and it sits lovely

 

[Brendan]

centre of ball at 16" above G/L should be exerting whatever the tow bar /ball hitch is spec.ed to - no more ..
bathroom scales under the hitch - piece of 18mm ply to cover the scales deck and a bit of 1-1/2" x 1-1/ 2" cut to the correct length to fit inside yer ball, sat on the scales and see what thy say
can set it up with the jockey and then wind it up

Pickups and 4x4 don't meet the 16" height, only applies to cars and some vans

 

[V8Druid]

Pickups and 4x4 don't meet the 16" height, only applies to cars and some vans

think you'll find that that is the std build height for the hitch, for Brian James, ifor, etc. -- 's why ifor make spacers / risers

 

[Gunners]

Its the Ifor trailer that's the problem. My Indespension used to be a lot better for sitting level, my Ifor it feels like the wheels are further back on the bed of the trailer so no matter how far back you put the machine its still nose heavy.

 

[V8Druid]

Its the Ifor trailer that's the problem. My Indespension used to be a lot better for sitting level, my Ifor it feels like the wheels are further back on the bed of the trailer so no matter how far back you put the machine its still nose heavy.

they're overly nose heavy empty - end of -- that one I had from you with Lil' Jake ... insanely nose heavy

 

[Storrsy]

they're overly nose heavy empty - end of -- that one I had from you with Lil' Jake ... insanely nose heavy

Sounds like I'm going to have to invest in a few more nuts for my tail gate clamp patent

 

[Lancs Lad]

Go on then..who mentioned Nose weight? @CPS can you keep the tin open it's the new cetop

 

[Brendan]

think you'll find that that is the std build height for the hitch, for Brian James, ifor, etc. -- 's why ifor make spacers / risers

Brian James void warranty if you add a spacer, or at least they did when I bought my tipper

 

[craig]

think you'll find that that is the std build height for the hitch, for Brian James, ifor, etc. -- 's why ifor make spacers / risers

The spacers don't work on the IW GH plant, the brake rod hits the spare wheel.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

The spacers don't work on the IW GH plant, the brake rod hits the spare wheel.

The GH94 with 10’’ wheels has spacers from the factory.

 

[Giles]

You will be fine going up a hill in 4wd, just put it back in 2wd as soon as you can.
There is a fuse on most jap 4wd's that you can put a switch in that allows you to be in 2wd low box.
Whilst my experience is solely with Hilux of this age, I can never recall loosing traction on a steep incline. However there is one hill up the back of carerham with a hair pin bend that requires low box as you have to slow down to much and the truck just stops.

The only truck that can run in 4wd on the road is the l200

My amarok is permanent 4wd just has 4motion controller where it intelligently switches.

My old navaras x 3 used to get did wind up if you ran them on non slippy stuff in 4wd

 

[Storrsy]

Its the Ifor trailer that's the problem. My Indespension used to be a lot better for sitting level, my Ifor it feels like the wheels are further back on the bed of the trailer so no matter how far back you put the machine its still nose heavy.

Your absolutely right hadn't considered it was the trailer at fault but comparing it to a bateson plant trailer the batesons axles do seem to be further forward.