Furniss
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Yes those 2 tak or wack for me at this size
What's Jcb's offering in 6t like, anyone used one ?
What's Jcb's offering in 6t like, anyone used one ?
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DaveDCB
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I had a 65r and it was pointless by comparison to my 57c .. just didn’t offer anything over and above mine, felt big and clumsy all with the same power as the 57!
Problem with us owner ops is we always want more power, never used to be a problem until the emissions regs tightened up..
Problem with us owner ops is we always want more power, never used to be a problem until the emissions regs tightened up..
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6feetdown
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Used a jcb 5t last year didn't like it much
Furniss
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Doesn't seem short of grunt the wacker tbf - but our work is light - run it at 1650 rpm about 90% of the time - if your trying and ramp up to full revs its bit faster but will sup more Juice and it doesn't really seem to give it more tearout.
Maybe someone will know the crack but with the law of diminishing returns and all that , thats where mine is set for our chicking scratting a 1650... eco is 1800 and power
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is 2000 
In fact dare not turn it up....toooo scary !
Maybe someone will know the crack but with the law of diminishing returns and all that , thats where mine is set for our chicking scratting a 1650... eco is 1800 and power
🫨 is 2000 In fact dare not turn it up....toooo scary !
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DaveDCB
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I run mine similar to you, only crank it up when I’m bulk digging or on the breaker.. 2000rpm is reserved for when I’m having a bad day 
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Smiffy
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I run mine similar to you, only crank it up when I’m bulk digging or on the breaker.. 2000rpm is reserved for when I’m having a bad day
Some machines drive like an absolute bag of sh*te on full revs. I had machine driver have a tantrum when I told him not to dig round services on full revs as he reckoned the feedback through the levers didn't work properly unless the machine was screaming it's bollox off.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I run the 'Drema at 1400-1500 most of the time .. plenty 
Gunners
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What's really disappointing on the new Kubota's is the engine's aren't as reliable as they used to be. They really suffer with poor quality fuel and injectors aren't cheap. They also like to get stuck in an almost constant loop of regen...
And I'm yet to hire one with a working heater - the blower motors give up for fun. Sadly, a lot of new machines nowadays don't seem to be any better than their predecessors. I detest the move towards a single hydraulic pump system - no matter how good your electronics are, flow gets robbed from somewhere when you multitask. 3 smaller pumps worked well for years - why have we moved away from this?!!!!
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
is it one variable flow/displacement pump or a simple gear pump they've gone to Ollie? If it's the latter then that's a backwards step - the VDP should easily match three smaller pumps (but need more donkeys to be efficient)
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DaveDCB
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Can’t remember the last time I had a small machine with 2 or more pumps? Maybe my 2009 3cx .. but flow share on that thing was horrible! Its 2010 replacement was single pump and bang on!
It does make me consider what the heck to do when the time comes to replace my machine, I don’t want all the crap that comes with the newer ones.. think I’ll just end up fully refurbing it and taking it into retirement with me!
It does make me consider what the heck to do when the time comes to replace my machine, I don’t want all the crap that comes with the newer ones.. think I’ll just end up fully refurbing it and taking it into retirement with me!
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Furniss
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Yep I had last model before regen/fap/dpf etc so anything newer going to have that crap
Don't know if wacker struggled like kub to make it work.
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Smiffy
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We had 2 newish 8t kubotas on hire recently on the same site. From a large plant hire firm. Same age similar hours. 4 different drivers couldn't get on with one of them. Had to constantly swap them around as one wouldn't grade properly. Not the drivers at all as the drivers would stick to the job and swap the machines between them keeping one for bulking out and one for trimming to level. Also noticed that a lot of new machines seem to judder if you go from pulling the dipper in to pushing it out without pausing. Both those kubotas did it and a sany that was on hire last year.
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DaveDCB
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Do you not think all these new machines(and vehicles) with their problems are just pushing everyone into leasing as they don’t want the problems? It’s not something I ever want to entertain at all but can see why larger firms who pile the hours on machines would go for!
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Smiffy
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No. I think it's the world we live in. Firstly they are trying to reduce emissions, not just from the tailpipe but from the manufacturing process. Secondly they are trying to budget engineer everything to increase profits. Thirdly they are trying to add stuff that is essentially gadgets and gimmicks as a sales ploy that don't add much substance to the car/van/digger/washing machine.
The result is a pretty sh*te product.
But the general consumer, even purchasing managers of large plant hire firms can be somewhat blinded by these things especially when they claim a cost saving. Even when in reality this is at the expense of reliability.
Completely off topic but has anyone else heard the advert for the vaxhaul grandlander.
In which it tells you how grand it is due to a light up front logo. Who the f*ck buys a car for a light up logo. And what a waste of natural resources to produce it.
kabin man
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Im glad it was not just me that thought this.. A advert comes up on my X all the time for this.
Is this the same marketing twats that did the disastrous Jaguar campaign?. If people are wowed by a light up grille, i despair of the young mindset.
Its a Peugeot 3008. Will this be the killer feature that helps to decide which one to buy
https://x.com/i/status/1856275801571774764
Lancs Lad
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Jaguar have ditched that marketing company...🫣Im glad it was not just me that thought this.. A advert comes up on my X all the time for this.
Is this the same marketing twats that did the disastrous Jaguar campaign?. If people are wowed by a light up grille, i despair of the young mindset.
Its a Peugeot 3008. Will this be the killer feature that helps to decide which one to buy
https://x.com/i/status/1856275801571774764
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
also claiming in excess of 425(?) miles on a charge
(downhill with a tail wind and everything turned off ??)
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Smiffy
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Including the electric badge??
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6feetdown
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Yeah my wm has wi fi connectivity ffs I know when it's finished it stops spinning
Bri963
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Cost and space. Even with multiple pumps when you multi-task flow gets reduced to other circuits. You can only take so much flow and pressure before you max out the engine. it’s more noticeable on small machines generally but even something like a Cat 320 or 325, with dual swashplates and auxiliary pump, if you track and work your bucket, you lose flow from the tracks.
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