Is the backhoe loader a thing of the past?

Gunners

Gunners

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As much as I love Ollie. The video for me of doling kerbs out with a more than capable mini excavator sat there speaks volumes.
I like to take multiple JCB's to a job as statistically, they wont break down all at the same time ;)
The new toy is a bit big for this job really, and the 8026 would have done everything here no problem, maybe even faster with the tiltrotator. But that's on another job a fair way away.
What you cant see in the video is the poor access for deliveries to this section of road. So materials are being dropped off 500m from where I'm working and the backhoe has been handy in being able to bring these in. Same with knocking up the dry lean, which I would traditionally put in my little dumper and shovelled out the skip by hand. I've done it with the backhoe, and whilst its a little awkward on the bends, its been pretty quick and has saved a fair bit of shovelling generally. Overkill perhaps but its on the job anyway and time tracking up and down the road to where I can knock up all adds up.
The little mini is there for another job I have on the same site, and has been useful to get in the awkward areas that are a bit slow or ends up requiring shovelling with the backhoe.
Any of my machines would have done this job, in any number of ways. I'm just using what I have on site to make it work best for me as I see it.
Plus - its my dream machine, who wouldn't want to play with their new toy😜
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I'll just throw out another opinion.

Using large machines on FOW duties for pissing about pushing concrete and kerbs out or backfilling is inherently more dangerous than using a smaller 360' in the same role. Lots of People / plant interface issues and visibility risks.

As much as I love Ollie. The video for me of doling kerbs out with a more than capable mini excavator sat there speaks volumes.
couldn't agree more with that point ....
they' a big lump to have people milling around you in ...
much the same as a blind sided duck - cameras / mirrors, or not, most the time you do not want anyone near you and have very little idea just where folk on the ground are in relation to you and the weapon.
 
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DaveDCB

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Must be some finance to cover! What are they, £100k? Even to JCB golden boys like you and him! 🤣
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Furniss

Furniss

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I like to take multiple JCB's to a job as statistically, they wont break down all at the same time ;)
The new toy is a bit big for this job really, and the 8026 would have done everything here no problem, maybe even faster with the tiltrotator. But that's on another job a fair way away.
What you cant see in the video is the poor access for deliveries to this section of road. So materials are being dropped off 500m from where I'm working and the backhoe has been handy in being able to bring these in. Same with knocking up the dry lean, which I would traditionally put in my little dumper and shovelled out the skip by hand. I've done it with the backhoe, and whilst its a little awkward on the bends, its been pretty quick and has saved a fair bit of shovelling generally. Overkill perhaps but its on the job anyway and time tracking up and down the road to where I can knock up all adds up.
The little mini is there for another job I have on the same site, and has been useful to get in the awkward areas that are a bit slow or ends up requiring shovelling with the backhoe.
Any of my machines would have done this job, in any number of ways. I'm just using what I have on site to make it work best for me as I see it.
Plus - its my dream machine, who wouldn't want to play with their new toy😜
Yes the more you use it the more you will adapt to working around its strong points and get it working for you, couldn't you spoon dry lean out your little dumper with tilty on 2.5t though ?
 
APhillips

APhillips

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I've just been watching a video of someone using dual drive while trenching, Jesus what a faff of buttons.

You'd just walk it as you go.

Literally buy the time you've legs up pressed buttons..you be as well spinning the seat.
I am not sure which video you saw, but from the short time I have spent on a 4CX dual drive, once you have swiveled the seat and activated dual drive, you just work on the shuttle switch, not further buttons to faff with. when you put the shuttle back in neutral the RPM automatically raises to where you had it set, select a direction and the RPM drops and activates the foot throttle.

I am sure Ollie could be more accurate, but from the 10mins I spent it didn't seem too bad.
 
hiluxman

hiluxman

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I am not sure which video you saw, but from the short time I have spent on a 4CX dual drive, once you have swiveled the seat and activated dual drive, you just work on the shuttle switch, not further buttons to faff with. when you put the shuttle back in neutral the RPM automatically raises to where you had it set, select a direction and the RPM drops and activates the foot throttle.

I am sure Ollie could be more accurate, but from the 10mins I spent it didn't seem too bad.


It was do somthing to active the bucket up, do sowing else to activate it, pess a button on the dash...hand brake on otherwise it won't work.

How many times do you put the handbrake on while spun round?... I know I'm probably been pedantic but it's not like the old way was slow or unsafe.
 
hiluxman

hiluxman

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Fortunately you can still get the latest cat with the old style lever pods and dedicated front bucket joystick and none of the seat mounted push buttons to active other stuff.

If I ever did do the backhoe thing again, I'd definitely test both versions of the cat out.
 
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