Is the backhoe loader a thing of the past?

V8Druid

V8Druid

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Furniss said:
Yeah im loosing the plot maybe - suppose its simply because im working next door and it's too easy - if it was a 6t dumper it would be on the wagon already ;)

Strange mixer caught my eye too :)

Has the possibility to be a digger loaded dry mix rig for tanks!

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well that has got to be had if the money is sensible Kev
the ability to load a mixer with the machine has to be a serious plus - towable too BTLs :cool:
 
Bri963

Bri963

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Nick... said:
Can't remember the year I first used one but I started on a 580b then the 580f.when I got on a G it was just brilliant.great traction,lots of power after the 60 hp 580f.easy to get in and out and everything falling to hand.dunno how many case machines were sold in the uk but probably just as many as the jcb.
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Nowhere near JCB’s numbers. A lot of operators didn’t like the geometry of the back arm. Cat copied it on their first backhoes and had the same complaints, and having tried one, could understand why. Once Cat went with the curved boom, they started to sell. Both the Cat and Cat were Better on the front bucket than JCB until the 3CX turbo came out.
 
Furniss

Furniss

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V8Druid said:
well that has got to be had if the money is sensible Kev
the ability to load a mixer with the machine has to be a serious plus - towable too BTLs :cool:
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Not sure how towable tbh ;) - a proper big towable mixer would be just as useful I recon, with the engcon you could load a normal drum and tbh I don't really want to spend any more money on buggerment :) a roller and a 6t dumper would be nice but manage well enough with what we have....I mean it never ends does it !
 
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DaveDCB

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I’m going to have to get myself a roller, I know they are super cheap to hire etc but I just never bother hiring one for 20 minutes of rolling and end up wacking or tracking it in… 🤔
 
Furniss

Furniss

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Last job only about 180m2 but I could of saved myself 1.5hr with a drum, layer of 0-60mm wacjed then topped with 0-20mm and wacked was a steady job , that little w/n plate is v good but small and slow compared to a roller...... 6-10 jobs a year hardly warrants the outlay.
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Nick...

Nick...

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Bri963 said:
Nowhere near JCB’s numbers. A lot of operators didn’t like the geometry of the back arm. Cat copied it on their first backhoes and had the same complaints, and having tried one, could understand why. Once Cat went with the curved boom, they started to sell. Both the Cat and Cat were Better on the front bucket than JCB until the 3CX turbo came out.
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Must admit I've never had an issue with the rear arm geometry.allways easier to see around unlike the jcb.having had a 432e cat i never really liked the rear arm but it's just personal preference.they must be ok as case and new Holland now supply curved rear arms.Case front ends have allways been great with bucket rams extending to roll back bucket and a lot better than retracting rams to do the same job.yanks still get the case system but we get the NH set up in Europe.it's just what we get used too.
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charlie2

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Nick... said:
Can't remember the year I first used one but I started on a 580b then the 580f.when I got on a G it was just brilliant.great traction,lots of power after the 60 hp 580f.easy to get in and out and everything falling to hand.dunno how many case machines were sold in the uk but probably just as many as the jcb.
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i thought the f and the g had the same engine and power, i liked the f it had high and low ratio and that meant a good choice of gears to use when pushing we got a g when they came out in 1982 i was a bit disappointed it only had the four gears but it was a decent enough machine and the first new machine i was trusted with we ran it for 6 years and the only main issue with it was we needed the torque converter and shuttle replaced, apart from that just tyres and hydraulic hoses good machine it was i tried out a k but did not really think much of it the loader control was right up next to steering wheel and i found it awkward to use, and the rear end controls were a flat metal upright that flexed a lot i thought it was horrible but apparently the demo i tried wasnt the production model so may have been different to machines that got supplied, my boss eventually got a jcb sitemaster turbo in 1988 that was a lovely machine to operate. probably the best model jcb made.
 
Bri963

Bri963

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Nick... said:
Must admit I've never had an issue with the rear arm geometry.allways easier to see around unlike the jcb.having had a 432e cat i never really liked the rear arm but it's just personal preference.they must be ok as case and new Holland now supply curved rear arms.Case front ends have allways been great with bucket rams extending to roll back bucket and a lot better than retracting rams to do the same job.yanks still get the case system but we get the NH set up in Europe.it's just what we get used too.
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i Haven’t seen that set up on a backhoe before. Cat tried a similar set up with a single central ram (I tested a 428 with it) but it put a lot of weight forward, put the bucket further forward, and basically put the machine out of balance.

That double ram set up is the same as on the old 450 drotts, and when they got a bit of wear they used to clatter and bang every time you shoved into a pile, steered, changed direction or drove on anything remotely resembling hard ground.
 
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topkit

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Thats a nice old Case plenty of life left in it and a real handy yard machine, problem is over here it probably is a 3-4 k machine but over in France or any of the Euro countries machinery always seems to be a fair bit more expensive, I always look on Mascus and compare our prices againt overseas prices.
PS if you buy it i will get you the sticker i need one for myself too so i will try and get a discount from Regy on a bulk 2 sticker order 😂😂
 
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Furniss

Furniss

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topkit said:
Thats a nice old Case plenty of life left in it and a real handy yard machine, problem is over here it probably is a 3-4 k machine but over in France or any of the Euro countries machinery always seems to be a fair bit more expensive, I always look on Mascus and compare our prices againt overseas prices.
PS if you buy it i will get you the sticker i need one for myself too so i will try and get a discount from Regy on a bulk 2 sticker order 😂😂
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It would flip at what hes askin... just got to deal with all weekend tyre kickers :(
Sticker might just be enough incentive though 😀
 
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Stroppymonkey

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V8Druid said:
tidy enough for a 30 yr old machine
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It’s close enough to me! I’m trying to avoid temptation. Friend of mine is moving house and needs somewhere to store a bunch of plant. Swapping storage space for free use of his 3t Kubota (which he’s storing in my shed) which should do all the little bits I need. 10K would just about pay for my concrete floor in the new shed….

Machine looks to be a tad rich for the hours and year I think. £7500 perhaps more realistic.
 
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