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Fiat-Hitachi FL 175Specifiche e Dati Tecnici (1992-2002)​

Peso: 18 t – Capacità benna: 2,1 m³ – Larghezza carreggiata: 450 mm – Costruttore motore: Fiat – Tipo motore: 8365 T – Potenza motore: 125 kW

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• Fiat Kobelco FL 175Specifiche e dati tecnici (2002-2002)​

• Peso: 18 t – Capacità benna: 2,1 m³ – Larghezza carreggiata: 450 mm – Costruttore motore: Fiat – Tipo motore: 8365 T – Potenza motore: 125 kW​

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[V8Druid]

some fierce-some teeth on that first loader bucket

 

[tctractors]

Welland a couple of years ago
Clara likes Yellow iron View attachment 25003View attachment 25004View attachment 25005
@JD450A 'll know what the machine was, attached to the bucket she's standing in .... can't recall the owner's name, but lives/works abroad and came over for the Welland weekend

The top photo showing the 951B with the young Driver stood in the bucket was mine, I bought it out of the Brambles and restored it then could not face getting it dirty, so lost interest in it fast and sold it to Martin Ashfield, I then later sold it for him to another chap.

 

[V8Druid]

The top photo showing the 951B with the young Driver stood in the bucket was mine, I bought it out of the Brambles and restored it then could not face getting it dirty, so lost interest in it fast and sold it to Martin Ashfield, I then later sold it for him to another chap.

my Grand daughter Tony ... she loves yellow iron - has done since she was tiny ... had a long chat with Martin later in the day .... nice shovel

 

[tctractors]

Back in the 60s the BTD6 shovel was £4K while the 933G was £6K (50% dearer!) That said the 933 was a much better machine with its oil clutch & non oscillating tracks, I think? It did not need the 'fudging device' that the Drott Hydra Spring was. The 951 came in in '61 at the old 955 size, & from '64
all the clutches & brakes ran in oil for long life.
The IH manual B100 / B125 used to suffer from oil getting through from the crown wheel onto the dry clutches & brakes, some owners drilled the drain bungs & put a bit of loose wire in, provided the machine was never to go into deep water.
As to the 100B /125B the main problem here was drivers shifting direction without decelerating & checking travel. The equivalent 941did not need to decelerate & had no facility to do so (you set the throttle to a position & just kept shifting as in a manual, but were advised to check travel with the bucket or centre pedal before changing direction). Some 941s were hand lever slew with foot brakes, some were foot steer with the centre main brake, (both Powershift), there were even a few manual 941s - layout as a 951a. Confusion set in if a driver went from powershift 941 to 125B & treated the latter the same. It was said by an old Saville fitter that anything on the B100 could be fixed in the field, whereas some problems on the 100B could only be fixed at the workshop.
I do remember a TM1100 being bought new in '76 for £8500 while a 100B was £12000 (both had cab & 4in1) IH phased out the manual range late '75? I do remember Ads by Komatsu saying the D30s was 're establishing direct drive in plant hire' praising its sheer reliability & fuel efficiency. no doubt looking for those who preferred simplicity in a machine

Also remember a '73 fully manual Case 450 with a layout pretty much as the B100, but can only find now info on direct drive 450 with the H-N-L powershift per track & overall F-N-R but lacking the torque converter (& lower 1st gear ratio's) if it had an 'inching pedal' I do not know.
Case crawlers were built in the old John Fowler factory in Leeds for a while. This is as I remember things - could be wrong as long time ago.

Just been reading all the Track Loader stuff as I used to be knee deep with them in the day, the 951 was first built in 1964 in the U.K. as the 89A with the 4 1/2" bore 330B engine fitted, this changed in late 1967 early 68 to the 63K series with the 4 3/4" bore 330C engine being fitted and badge'd up as the 951A there was never a Service Manual printed for these Shovels (well not that I know) just Parts and Opp's books, the 941's that you would find in the U.K. were 70H Series built in France, the standard build for them was long lever steering with the Option of the 6K3944 Peddle Steering Arrangement, and would have been able to buy from mid 1969 here although the 63K was still being built until early 1970, I have never seen anything but Powershift 941's but who knows the Army might have had some Direct Drive's built but there is no parts listing for a D/Drive, for some reason I even know the Serial No' change on the F/Drives from 58 x 10 Bull and Pinion gear to 52 x 9 on 70H1781, I have yet to study picture posting as I have loads from 983 down in the CAT, also loads of Komatsu's.

 

[Bri963]

Get them posted, Tony. Now you mention it I’ve had my backside on a few 941’s over the years and they were all power shift and pedal steer. Been on a couple of manual 951’s. Every 955 I saw or operated was power shift and pedal steer.We’re any of the Kommie Drotts manual boxes?

Wishing now I’d taken pictures over the years. I never thought anyone would be interested in pictures of heaps of soil and machinery.

 

[6feetdown]

Get them posted, Tony. Now you mention it I’ve had my backside on a few 941’s over the years and they were all power shift and pedal steer. Been on a couple of manual 951’s. Every 955 I saw or operated was power shift and pedal steer.We’re any of the Kommie Drotts manual boxes?

Wishing now I’d taken pictures over the years. I never thought anyone would be interested in pictures of heaps of soil and machinery.

Only sad people. If you find any send them to me

 

[Old Operator]

Komatsu did D20S, D30S, D40S @ approx 4, 6, &, 9 Tonne, direct drive shovels. If I remember right these had a foot main clutch on the left, two long steering levers & a manual box, I think some had a pair of brake pedals for the right foot that could be applied singly or together JCB 3C style. When IH stopped the small manual machines about '75 or '76 (the B100, B125, BTD8) Komatsu had full page adverts in Construction news offering the above, saying they were re establishing direct drive in plant hire for its sheer simplicity & reliability. The Japanese believed that torque converters were only practical above 100 Hp, Japan had no oil deposits of its own & were much more worried about fuel consumption.
I have seen 941 powershifts with hand lever steering, but only read that direct drive 941's were offered but only built to special order. I gather the 951 dated from '61 & was oil cooled on all brakes & clutches from '64 on. Early 955's were about 9 tonne but went up in size from when the 951 was introduced at this weight. Oil main clutches were back fitted to some machines that would not have had them when new.

 

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Komatsu
KOMATSU D475 A-5?

 

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This is a picture of the 951B that I put a bit of effort in to from a bit of a wreck, it's sat on the upgraded 6.91" Track assembly's that make the sprocket Non Hunting Tooth, it did have the Otterson (Klippan) cab fitted but I was not a big fan so cut it up, lesson I had to learn for myself was put all the fancy paint on and I could not scratch it, keep them ugly and no worry's, I lost interest in it fast. tctractors

 

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These were a strong thing they came with a 4 pot motor and a 6 pot motor, this was a 6 pot D57S.

 

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This I Bodge Ford sat in his 953 that had a Hydraulic fault, I fount the main relief valve stuck.

 

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