7.5ton back on a car licence 🤔

[Justme]

Ozzy road trains are multiple combinations of turntable drags, with the drawbar geometry set up to make the trailers follow each other’s track.
When I was in Aus they also had tippers towing turntable tipper trailers (they call them dog trailers) - they would tip the truck’s load without disconnecting the trailer’s drawbar.
Like this

If he did that log lorry style both tips would be in one pile.

 

[JD450A]

no question .. becomes a goods vehicle the moment it receives a load, on the road ... on site - do what you like .... just means it can be driven between 'sites', much like a duck/dumper, but without a trailer

Yes and no.

There is a radius, and this includes site to site travel for works trucks. From memory it's 1km.

Likewise certain types of special vehicles can carry equipment and supplies vital to its role. E.g a Poling rig may carry the poles it is scheduled to erect, and transport home the poles it has removed although what it can't do is be used to deliver poles to site for a digger to erect.


Wormy can.


Fyi a lorry can be driven commercially for construction 10miles a week between jobs and the yard without a O license.

 

[Weaknee]

Is a lorry with a plough attachment rig exempt from operators licensing as you can get them with hiabs and tipper bodies or hookloaders which seems handy as long as it has the plough hitch is it exempt?

 

[craig]

Is a lorry with a plough attachment rig exempt from operators licensing as you can get them with hiabs and tipper bodies or hookloaders which seems handy as long as it has the plough hitch is it exempt?

Guessing snowplough?
Only exempt if solely used for snow clearance, other use would need O licence.

 

[craig]

Fyi a lorry can be driven commercially for construction 10miles a week between jobs and the yard without a O license.

6 miles a week

 

[6feetdown]

Fair wedge more money but their is this option. Would carry a 2.7t machine and attachments on the back

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That's steep!

 

[V8Druid]

Yes and no.

There is a radius, and this includes site to site travel for works trucks. From memory it's 1km.

Likewise certain types of special vehicles can carry equipment and supplies vital to its role. E.g a Poling rig may carry the poles it is scheduled to erect, and transport home the poles it has removed although what it can't do is be used to deliver poles to site for a digger to erect.


Wormy can.


Fyi a lorry can be driven commercially for construction 10miles a week between jobs and the yard without a O license.

registered as ''special plant'', so it says ... not a works truck

more likely to be 'special vehicle type' ..
usually with a definition after it .. like 'mobile crane' - 'truck mounted' or 'mobile crane' - 'self propelled' .....
or as Rory suggested 'pole cat' (can't recall their 'official definition').
all of which can only carry equipment related to their operation and aren't allowed to tow

how often has the duck situation been raised ... car license (over 21 - used to be - don't know now) ... but no towing and can only carry its own related equipment (like a BHL is entitled to do)

 

[Smiffy]

That's steep!

You should see how much they are new !! Same for the normal 7.5t.
Tbf the Isuzu n75 is probably best value for money as they can carry more than the traditional 7.5t not as much as the daily but plenty about second hand for sensible money. Haven't driven one though but they definitely go better than the daf lf45

 

[Furniss]

You should see how much they are new !! Same for the normal 7.5t.
Tbf the Isuzu n75 is probably best value for money as they can carry more than the traditional 7.5t not as much as the daily but plenty about second hand for sensible money. Haven't driven one though but they definitely go better than the daf lf45

Ive said it before but you lads in uk dont know your born with cheap truck prices ....mate thought I was joking when I told him how much you have to pay here.

Even now Im looking out for a cheap little white van to nip about in and you need 6k to buy anything worth having.

 

[Smiffy]

Ive said it before but you lads in uk dont know your born with cheap truck prices ....mate thought I was joking when I told him how much you have to pay here.

Even now Im looking out for a cheap little white van to nip about in and you need 6k to buy anything worth having.

And the bigger they get the more for your money you get. It's amazing the depreciation on them.

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Realistically if the trailer was over that weight it wouldn't be viable to carry anything on it and engineering plant trailers (so lighting plants, gensets, compressors, drill rigs etc. Are exempt. As are "agricultural" trailers.

I've a feeling exhibition trailers are too.

My crane trailer falls under extra rules if I tow behind a van.. not if I use a dual purpose vehicle though...

 

[Justme]

My crane trailer falls under extra rules if I tow behind a van.. not if I use a dual purpose vehicle though...

Surely if its mounted then its exempt?

Or is the crane on tracks?

 

[Weaknee]

Can a private residence be an operators centre does it need a driveway and are they more lenient with 7.5ton rather than larger lorry or does it have to be a commercial premises

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Surely if its mounted then its exempt?

Or is the crane on tracks?

The Hiab is mounted on the back of a flatbed Ifor LM. Weighs about 2000kg so well over the threshold. If it was JUST a crane it might be exempt, but because it weights over the 1200kg (I forget the exact threshold) and can carry a load it would require additional Licencing when behind a van…. But not if using a dual purpose 4x4 that weighs less than 2040kg empty!

 

[hiluxman]

Can a private residence be an operators centre does it need a driveway and are they more lenient with 7.5ton rather than larger lorry or does it have to be a commercial premises

I know someone who has this, it wasn't easy for them to obtain and they have several restrictions including times they are allowed to operate and they were regularly checked upon.

For what you can rent a parking spot in a hgv yard I can't see it been worth trying to get an o licence for a 7.5t at your own house.

 

[Smiffy]

For what you can rent a parking spot in a hgv yard I can't see it been worth trying to get an o licence for a 7.5t at your own house.

It's not unheard-of for the o license to be registered elsewhere but the lorry seemingly visiting the house every night.
It depends on the neighbors. One of mine used to regularly have a skip lorry parked on the drive. Didn't bother anyone or do any harm. But their is always one who whinges

 

[Quattromike]

I've heard those that get their operating centre for the OL at their house sometimes have extra restrictions on time, weights ,axles or length depending on what side bed the issuing commissioner got out that morning

 

[hiluxman]

It's not unheard-of for the o license to be registered elsewhere but the lorry seemingly visiting the house every night.
It depends on the neighbors. One of mine used to regularly have a skip lorry parked on the drive. Didn't bother anyone or do any harm. But their is always one who whinges

Oh yes, I could tell you what we did years ago but times now aren't like they were 15 years ago.

 

[Giles]

If you live on a non working farm with loads of land etc surely you can get operating base from there if business registered there as well etc?

 

[hiluxman]

If you live on a non working farm with loads of land etc surely you can get operating base from there if business registered there as well etc?

When I applied for mine they said they would ask police, fire and council if they had any objections and I run from a site where there is several others with o license registered there.