7.5ton back on a car licence 🤔

[craig]

When I applied for mine they said they would ask police, fire and council if they had any objections and I run from a site where there is several others with o license registered there.

They are statutory objectors, or at least the LA is.

 

[Justme]

The Hiab is mounted on the back of a flatbed Ifor LM. Weighs about 2000kg so well over the threshold. If it was JUST a crane it might be exempt, but because it weights over the 1200kg (I forget the exact threshold) and can carry a load it would require additional Licencing when behind a van…. But not if using a dual purpose 4x4 that weighs less than 2040kg empty!

Ah when you said crane I thought you meant crane as if thats all it was, not a loading hiab.

Yes if you carry a load then your stuffed.


I am lucky as mine is a grab but also has other fixed equipment & cant carry a load.

I am exempt for potential 3 reasons:-

1, fixed equipment, no load carrying past equipment needed for the fixed equipment.
2, 4x4 / Landrover (but over the unladen weight limit given but the do specify Landrovers as exempt)
3, unlade under limit IF they dont think equipment is fixed.

 

[Old Operator]

I was told that some beaver tail 7.5t plant trucks were so well designed that they could manage 4t as a load. Granted the whole o license thing seems to make jumping up from a 2.6t mini unviable for the owner op. I did come up with the idea of several owner ops forming a sort of co -operative, buying into & sharing the costs of the movement vehicle, would this be said to be 'haulage' if only moving equipment owned by the co operative members?
Big hook stuff is more versatile than a dedicated beaver tail, but there is a big weight penalty because of the 'Multi Lift' equipment's weight, a local firm runs a 7.5t big hook but this can only move a 2t max digger. He uses a skip rather than a plant flat body in this size, so maybe weight to be shed here.
He also ran a 3 axle HGV multi lift but this could only carry 8t, - he used to offer machinery haulage but this seems to have been dropped along with the vehicle

 

[Furniss]

I was told that some beaver tail 7.5t plant trucks were so well designed that they could manage 4t as a load. Granted the whole o license thing seems to make jumping up from a 2.6t mini unviable for the owner op. I did come up with the idea of several owner ops forming a sort of co -operative, buying into & sharing the costs of the movement vehicle, would this be said to be 'haulage' if only moving equipment owned by the co operative members?
Big hook stuff is more versatile than a dedicated beaver tail, but there is a big weight penalty because of the 'Multi Lift' equipment's weight, a local firm runs a 7.5t big hook but this can only move a 2t max digger. He uses a skip rather than a plant flat body in this size, so maybe weight to be shed here.
He also ran a 3 axle HGV multi lift but this could only carry 8t, - he used to offer machinery haulage but this seems to have been dropped along with the vehicle

Not sure a beaver tail is any good to anyone other than a transport company, too much a one trick pony and sharing a transport vehicle in a co-op isnt going to work imho.
The 19t 4 wheeler hook I have does 10t with tipper back on .... you could save some by having a plant body but again its not very practical to be running different bodies about..... once you have had a hook and had the endless benefits its a no going back scenario and your quite happy to give up some payload for the advantages it brings, you just need to go big enough for the weight of the hook not to matter in your scenario.

 

[Giles]

The ultimate gypsy truck lol , but looks handy.

Reality not much payload though

 

[V8Druid]

fresh air mobile

 

[Smiffy]

fresh air mobile

If it's a 7t version would still hould twice what a transit tipper would

 

[Giles]

If it's a 7t version would still hould twice what a transit tipper would

1800kg then lol

 

[Smiffy]

1800kg then lol

It could possibly be more than that. The tipper version holds anything up to 4100kgs
That's only a small crane so 6-800kg. And hook gear same again. So you may be pushing 2.5t. obviously depends on the spec

 

[6feetdown]

Borrowed this today to see what it towed like.
It's single wheel not twin, have to say it towed superb, driving empty not a great drive especially if you hit a speed bump a little to eager!
But overall very capable

 

[groundworker]

Borrowed this today to see what it towed like.
It's single wheel not twin, have to say it towed superb, driving empty not a great drive especially if you hit a speed bump a little to eager!
But overall very capable View attachment 69536

Speed bumps are its nemesis...

Which engine was it? How do you find the power?

 

[6feetdown]

Speed bumps are its nemesis...

Which engine was it? How do you find the power?

1.9 didn't struggle at all tbf. Cpl downchanges on a few hills but towed it about 25 miles so a reasonable drive on motorway and B roads

 

[V8Druid]

Speed bumps are its nemesis...

Which engine was it? How do you find the power?

try slowing down a bit for 'em