7.5ton back on a car licence 🤔

[craig]

In reality it`s just lip service, so the government can be seen to be doing something about the `driver shortage`
Christmas is just around the corner in logistics terms, if there are shortages, government can say "not our fault we`ve done x,y and propose z"

 

[Giles]

I passed mine in 99 so missed out on trailer and 7.5 ton, first week of driving I was doing garden for my sister in Warrington going up the m56 everyday in our 814 merc no restrictor and double tanks so luckily filled it just before fuel crisis I was only one on roads. Wasn’t till about 4 years later worked out couldn’t drive 7.5 ton on my license lol

Same for trailers towed for 18 years before doing the test getting 1 minor on it for speeding then they got rid of it lol

 

[Quattromike]

But for commercial use if over 3.5t you still require O License?

 

[6feetdown]

But for commercial use if over 3.5t you still require O License?

All to complicated

 

[JD450A]

All to complicated

And that's what needs simplification to make the industry safer.
Bin the O license for under 13/15t.... On condition of twice annual Plating/Ministry testing and heavy roadside fines for non compliance on weights..... You'll soon make the lower end of the industry a lot safer.

 

[Simon edwards]

Yep that’d do it!Asit currently stands there’s too much paperwork,hassle,expense and dead time involved in running a small lorry for any of us whose use is minimal and only really for our own convenience and increased safety.We have a restricted O license but it just is’nt worth ot as things currently stand.It would even be reasonable to have annual mileage restrictions applied or similar.

 

[TiltyShaun]

But for commercial use if over 3.5t you still require O License?

Now that is a can of worms!! Are you talking Vehicle size or vehicle and trailer??

 

[Furniss]

In France (at present) we only have annual test for HGV and no o license so it's a much simpler option to run a truck and be done with all the weight hassle.

They don't half know how to embroil people in a load of shite nowadays.

 

[TiltyShaun]

Yep that’d do it!Asit currently stands there’s too much paperwork,hassle,expense and dead time involved in running a small lorry for any of us whose use is minimal and only really for our own convenience and increased safety.We have a restricted O license but it just is’nt worth ot as things currently stand.It would even be reasonable to have annual mileage restrictions applied or similar.

Annual mileage restrictions would be pointless if you are trying to reduce paperwork!! 6 monthly test and enforcement would be far easier as @JD450A

 

[TiltyShaun]

In France (at present) we only have annual test for HGV and no o license so it's a much simpler option to run a truck and be done with all the weight hassle.

They don't half know how to embroil people in a load of shite nowadays.

Simply put, all the paperwork, enforcement and application creates employment for people how can’t or won’t do a proper job!!!

 

[Charlie]

Pleaseee nooooooooo no no no no noooooooo!

That will mean my wife can drive this!!!!!!!

God help us all

 

[6feetdown]

Pleaseee nooooooooo no no no no noooooooo!

That will mean my wife can drive this!!!!!!!

God help us all

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Be great if her name is Denise

 

[Justme]

Now that is a can of worms!! Are you talking Vehicle size or vehicle and trailer??

Does not matter as both are counted.

 

[JD450A]

You don't need a o license for any trailer or van below 3.5t. above that weight you do.

 

[TiltyShaun]

You don't need a o license for any trailer or van below 3.5t. above that weight you do.

Doesn’t that depend on the trailer being under a certain unladen weight??

 

[JD450A]

Doesn’t that depend on the trailer being under a certain unladen weight??

Realistically if the trailer was over that weight it wouldn't be viable to carry anything on it and engineering plant trailers (so lighting plants, gensets, compressors, drill rigs etc. Are exempt. As are "agricultural" trailers.

I've a feeling exhibition trailers are too.

 

[6feetdown]

So to clarify buying a 7.5t lorry and tow 3.5t on trailer can you answer all the following:-
1.Driving Licence required?
2.Tacho req?
3. Subject to individual vehicles gross train weight approx?
4. Do I req an O licence if 1 of my guys was using the lorry for transporting our own gear?
5. As no 4 but say collecting type 1 for a job that we were carrying out?

 

[hiluxman]

So to clarify buying a 7.5t lorry and tow 3.5t on trailer can you answer all the following:-
1.Driving Licence required?
2.Tacho req?
3. Subject to individual vehicles gross train weight approx?
4. Do I req an O licence if 1 of my guys was using the lorry for transporting our own gear?
5. As no 4 but say collecting type 1 for a job that we were carrying out?

1. C1+e or c+e
2. Yes
3. ???
4. Yes, restricted
5. Yes, restricted

 

[TiltyShaun]

So to clarify buying a 7.5t lorry and tow 3.5t on trailer can you answer all the following:-
1.Driving Licence required?
2.Tacho req?
3. Subject to individual vehicles gross train weight approx?
4. Do I req an O licence if 1 of my guys was using the lorry for transporting our own gear?
5. As no 4 but say collecting type 1 for a job that we were carrying out?

I will go with what I think I know.
1. Not sure
2. Yes
3. 7.5 + 3.5 = 11
4. Restricted
5. Restricted

 

[Smiffy]

A 7.5t would be pretty handy for all us chaps running 2.8tonners. could either put the digger on the bed and tow all the attachments to keep it legal or the other way round, but either way far better then all this ridiculous loading everything to within an inch of its life that we all do. Yeah I'd love it and then just have a van for nipping around and carrying tools

Wouldn't even need a vehicle and trailer.
This should carry a 2.7t machine buckets and also Wacker plate and tools

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