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Smiffy
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And Mr musk is in control of it. So one day you go use your electric and find none as he has fed it back into the system for the greater good
Routy56
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Gra - when you sign up for FIT it's at the rate when its taken out.so the FIT has risen then ... 2012 was forty summat and declined to below 10p very quickly .... when did it start to climb again ?
just been googling and ...... " The FITs scheme closed to new applications on 31 March 2019 "
" When the Feed in Tariff finishes end of March, some of the excess electric generated by your solar energy array will inevitably go back to the grid. At the moment there's no mechanism to get paid for it. "
So ours on 2015 was for 20 years until 2035.
In 2015 the initial FIT deal was:
Generation 12.92p/kWh
Export 4.85p/kWh
Each year, on 31st March, it has increased slightly in accordance with the RPI
In 2021 (March) it was set at:
Generation 14.65p/kWh
Export 5.5p/kWh
These rates are set by Ofgen and the rates are on table in their web site - OFGEN
In the 6 years or so of owning our 4kW Solar Array the FIT payments have now paid for the investment
No doubt there will be an even bigger increase on 31st March 2022 in accordance with the runaway RPI.....
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fred
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point being to move from oil to a heat pump and keep radiators would mean they would need to treble in size which isnt ideal. Hence moving to underfloor and without insulation you are throwing away money. Heat pumps can cost north of £500 a month to run in winter if you have a lot of hot water demand and they cant do heat and hot water at the same time so the less heating demand the better!
Foil under the floor is pointless really as heat rises. The passivhaus guys have got it cracked, the issue they face is with enough glazing they have to stop them overheating.
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fred
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so the FIT has risen then ... 2012 was forty summat and declined to below 10p very quickly .... when did it start to climb again ?
just been googling and ...... " The FITs scheme closed to new applications on 31 March 2019 "
" When the Feed in Tariff finishes end of March, some of the excess electric generated by your solar energy array will inevitably go back to the grid. At the moment there's no mechanism to get paid for it. "
goes up by RPI every year, compounding really is great!
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fred
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not sure where you get that from but its not true. The owner has full control. There are tariffs whereby they give it you cheaper 24x7 in return for borrowing your powerwall instead of timeshifting.
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Smiffy
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You may have full control ATM
Everything is there and all the connectivity is there for him to do as he likes. Which has already been proven true on his cars.
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fred
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he would have to come round to the gaf and plug his laptop in then as its not connected to the internet!
Conspiracy theories lol!
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fred
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doesn't stop the tanks being hotter, in fact they have to do a cycle for legionnaires. Heat pumps are ideal for 45-55c.
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Smiffy
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When my dad inquired they said the latest version requires an internet connection to work. It's why he didn't go for it.
It not conspiracy theories, it will happen sooner or later for the greater good.
Shovelhands
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you mean for the domination over, suppression and control of the population, thus strengthening the position and wealth of the few?
pettsy
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Smiffy
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Exactly !!
Routy56
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Oi Matt - you can't tease us with no sound from that superb movie
This clip has sound - The Greater Good
Which reminds me that having finished work early, I have a Lodge Meeting this evening ....
Routy56
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Agree with all of that Fred
Know all about Legionnaires' Disease and it's prevention in hot water systems
So, we are on on OIL CH and have been for the 34 years that we have lived here 'cos I installed it.
Pay attention Matt @pettsy
BUT about 20 years ago, I also installed a Horstmann Maxistore Immersion Heater Timer.....
The beauty of this timer is the advantages when you are on an 'Economy 7 tariff'
- Turn yer OIL heating off completely in the summer
- Grab a large tank of 70c hot water during the night
- Boost it during the day when solar PV kicks in (note the boost lamp is on)
Now gotta scheme how to get ready to ADD an Air (or ground) source heat pump to the mix.....
Meanwhile, I continue to fettle my ex-Army big fcuk off Gen Set in true @JD450A Rory Prepper Style
What a great thread let's keep it going boys........
Quattromike
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So, after 70 odd replies to this thread, what I'm looking at is fitting solar panels to the roof of the shed so it can help supply electric through the day for lights or anything else that uses it, it'll be connected up to the mains but no feed in rate just we use it if being made and when we don't need it it'll just feed in. If we put 8KW of panels on the roof during the day any power being produced will be used up and more so will help reduce electric bill. Lights are on 6 and half days a week, more sometimes.
What we're trying to get our heads round is the cost of panels and inverter, cost of installation and return of reduced electricity bills. Does it add up?
What we're trying to get our heads round is the cost of panels and inverter, cost of installation and return of reduced electricity bills. Does it add up?
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fred
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purely maths, battery before solar makes financial sense as you can immediately move to time of day tariff and pay cheap rate.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
there's still a way of earning from it MikeSo, after 70 odd replies to this thread, what I'm looking at is fitting solar panels to the roof of the shed so it can help supply electric through the day for lights or anything else that uses it, it'll be connected up to the mains but no feed in rate just we use it if being made and when we don't need it it'll just feed in. If we put 8KW of panels on the roof during the day any power being produced will be used up and more so will help reduce electric bill. Lights are on 6 and half days a week, more sometimes.
What we're trying to get our heads round is the cost of panels and inverter, cost of installation and return of reduced electricity bills. Does it add up?
" ‘Smart Export Guarantee’ (SEG) would replace the existing ‘Feed-in Tariff’ scheme (FIT), with electricity suppliers paying new small-scale energy producers for excess electricity from homes and businesses being put back into the energy grid. "
Smart Export Guarantee
The Smart Export Guarantee ensures people that generate their own electricity are paid for the electricity they export to the grid.
energysavingtrust.org.uk
GazCro
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There's only one thing you've got wrong there, if you're tank is boosted to 70 through night it's beyond where the efficiency is for solar top up. Most of the energy is used in the first 30 deg of temp rise this is where you find the best efficiency gains.Agree with all of that Fred
Know all about Legionnaires' Disease and it's prevention in hot water systems
So, we are on on OIL CH and have been for the 34 years that we have lived here 'cos I installed it.
Pay attention Matt @pettsy
BUT about 20 years ago, I also installed a Horstmann Maxistore Immersion Heater Timer.....
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......seen here beside our new super big HW cylinder and the 'new' S plan gubbins
The beauty of this timer is the advantages when you are on an 'Economy 7 tariff'
As I say this has been what we have been doing for many years now and seems to work for us
- Turn yer OIL heating off completely in the summer
- Grab a large tank of 70c hot water during the night
- Boost it during the day when solar PV kicks in (note the boost lamp is on)
Now gotta scheme how to get ready to ADD an Air (or ground) source heat pump to the mix.....
Meanwhile, I continue to fettle my ex-Army big fcuk off Gen Set in true @JD450A Rory Prepper Style
View attachment 32186
What a great thread let's keep it going boys........
Lancs Lad
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Off topic but..
Out of interest we run a mitsi heatpump ..old random 1920s bungalow that's been pulled apart more times than we can figure.
About half is on ufloor htg.
Rest is all brand new decent rads.
With all this talk I've been looking at my meter!
Just calculated it cost me average £300 a month to run last year at today's crazy leccy prices
but that's 5 folk and 3 showers and she likes it warmmm
And I get £120 RHI a month off that. We used to pay £150 on oil only previously...so gives an idea to anyone interested..not saying it's cheap but that's our situ.
Do have big woodburner tho...
But what else is the option? I've hardly any south facing roof...?
Out of interest we run a mitsi heatpump ..old random 1920s bungalow that's been pulled apart more times than we can figure.
About half is on ufloor htg.
Rest is all brand new decent rads.
With all this talk I've been looking at my meter!
Just calculated it cost me average £300 a month to run last year at today's crazy leccy prices
but that's 5 folk and 3 showers and she likes it warmmmAnd I get £120 RHI a month off that. We used to pay £150 on oil only previously...so gives an idea to anyone interested..not saying it's cheap but that's our situ.
Do have big woodburner tho...
But what else is the option? I've hardly any south facing roof...?
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