Red diesel.....

Gunners

Gunners

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So what we putting prices up to then? I always try to base my prices on hard digging then aim to do as little as possible for maximum profit. Hence I don't mind a bit of shovelling when on hire - its very profitable plant hire! Anyway, using the rough 60p/litre figure for cherry and £1.13 plus vat for white (£1.35 inc vat pump price);
A 3t machine uses 25l/day hard digging - £15 in cherry+vat £28.25 in white+vat. So a rise of £13.25 in cost to us.
An 8t uses 40l/day - £24 in cherry, £45.20 in white. £21.20 increase.
God knows what a bigger machine uses but my guess is they wont put prices up as they love losing money on the big machines as long as they look cool.

For me personally with my machines, its only a £13 increase in cost but I'm thinking its justifiable to put £20 on the rate and blame it on white?
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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So what we putting prices up to then? I always try to base my prices on hard digging then aim to do as little as possible for maximum profit. Hence I don't mind a bit of shovelling when on hire - its very profitable plant hire! Anyway, using the rough 60p/litre figure for cherry and £1.13 plus vat for white (£1.35 inc vat pump price);
A 3t machine uses 25l/day hard digging - £15 in cherry+vat £28.25 in white+vat. So a rise of £13.25 in cost to us.
An 8t uses 40l/day - £24 in cherry, £45.20 in white. £21.20 increase.
God knows what a bigger machine uses but my guess is they wont put prices up as they love losing money on the big machines as long as they look cool.

For me personally with my machines, its only a £13 increase in cost but I'm thinking its justifiable to put £20 on the rate and blame it on white?
My question...why would you not put it up?
Everything else is going up...it's all over the news...folk who kick off about the any increases are in cloud cuckoo land...I think the public are going to get some surprises. Leccy costs are climbing and now the one of the French interconnectors is fkked ...
 
Gunners

Gunners

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My question...why would you not put it up?
Everything else is going up...it's all over the news...folk who kick off about the any increases are in cloud cuckoo land...I think the public are going to get some surprises. Leccy costs are climbing and now the one of the French interconnectors is fkked ...
I'm not saying I'm not going to put my prices up - I am! I'm just considering where my 2022 price list should be pitched and wondered what the rest of you were thinking. Makes for better conversation than arguing about how s**t the situation is:p
 
B

bobthebuilder

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So what we putting prices up to then? I always try to base my prices on hard digging then aim to do as little as possible for maximum profit. Hence I don't mind a bit of shovelling when on hire - its very profitable plant hire! Anyway, using the rough 60p/litre figure for cherry and £1.13 plus vat for white (£1.35 inc vat pump price);
A 3t machine uses 25l/day hard digging - £15 in cherry+vat £28.25 in white+vat. So a rise of £13.25 in cost to us.
An 8t uses 40l/day - £24 in cherry, £45.20 in white. £21.20 increase.
God knows what a bigger machine uses but my guess is they wont put prices up as they love losing money on the big machines as long as they look cool.

For me personally with my machines, its only a £13 increase in cost but I'm thinking its justifiable to put £20 on the rate and blame it on white?
up 20 quid and still be on cherry:):):):):):)
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

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60 quid a day for duck or case 130 will cover me working hard so a bonus when I can conserve fuel . The mini 20 a day seems fair. enough . That’s so long as my customers don’t abandon me for the local farmers subsidised kobelcos . If that happens the gloves will be off and I will be a horticulturist.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
God knows what a bigger machine uses but my guess is they wont put prices up as they love losing money on the big machines as long as they look cool.

For me personally with my machines, its only a £13 increase in cost but I'm thinking its justifiable to put £20 on the rate and blame it on white?
'Drema used 6 lt / hr steady on , ripping me rock out, patch digging ... but dare say it could be a lot thirstier worked harder
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Didn't you say you run a Genny Gra?
Bingo:

for heating and electricity generation in non-commercial premises - this includes the heating of homes and buildings such as places of worship, hospitals and townhalls; off-grid power generation; and non-propulsion uses on permanently-moored houseboats
 
Giles

Giles

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I’m hearing reports of red at 80p litre this week anyone confirm or deny?
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Didn't you say you run a Genny Gra?
Bingo:

for heating and electricity generation in non-commercial premises - this includes the heating of homes and buildings such as places of worship, hospitals and townhalls; off-grid power generation; and non-propulsion uses on permanently-moored houseboats
where are you quoting that from please LL ??
 
Left hooker

Left hooker

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'Drema used 6 lt / hr steady on , ripping me rock out, patch digging ... but dare say it could be a lot thirstier worked harder
Might have to start using eco setting on my 18t 🤣

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TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

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My normal supplier was unable to give me a quote. Delivery booked for next week. See what it comes in at along with heating oil to 3 neighbours. He said our local depot is staring to run low as Hoyer are not refilling heating oil at the moment as everyone on fuel
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
I was 70.77p for 815 litres on Friday.
glad I had 850L a couple of weeks back at 63 ..... and available :rolleyes: ....... should keep 'the generator' going for a week or two ;):giggle:
My normal supplier was unable to give me a quote. Delivery booked for next week. See what it comes in at along with heating oil to 3 neighbours. He said our local depot is staring to run low as Hoyer are not refilling heating oil at the moment as everyone on fuel
 
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