who runs lorries

[Big Jordy]

That particular iveco is a great running wagon 310hp plated to 32000kg gtw pulls like a train shes 09 only has 136000km on it ex council lorry from Scotland she likes juice though ... i think the general rule of thumb on ivecos is anything over 7500kg is fine.. personally ive never had much luck with the 7.5tonners alot of electrical gremlins.. that iveco is a 7500kg front axle and 11500kg rear

 

[craig]

That's what I mean proper plant trucks should be species with the heavier front axle as the positioning is harder
A 13 tonner on the back positioned correctly on some of the lorries has the boom stick to far out the back or has to have the boom over the cab neither are ideal where as a 12.5 tonne axle allows far better load distribution

I think 10 tonne is the heaviest front axle you can get, that's only come about on euro 6`s, because of the extra weight of engine an its ancillary's.
But I agree, my current 6 wheeler has a 9tonne front axle so is more forgiving in loading position, my old truck a factory build 6 wheeler with a 7500kg front axle was heavy on the front end with the front mount crane, but you could put a 12 tonner (a 13 was to heavy on my gross weight) on without overloading any axle, or putting overhang marker plate on.

 

[craig]

What I trying to say is the front axle weight would be one of my least worries on a stretched unit

 

[Hydremaduck]

It’s currently 102.6 on my fuel cards.

Which I suspect is Bunker price so only likes of motorway service areas?

 

[Volbar1]

For the vehicle to pay its way I really need 6 ton of payload, which is sensible for our work.I am considering a chassis cab and having a body built but this is somewhat new territory for us.might be fun though!

That's what I did, purchased a ex mod 12t daf with low mileage and had shawtrack build a beavertail for me, the body was £10.5k, over 6 ton payload, it's a euro 3 so none of that electronic/exhaust s**t to go wrong.

 

[TiltyShaun]

Interesting to hear all the replies and for my pennies worth I would go hook lift and sort the yard situation. Even with truck and trailer you really need good unless you go barn door skip and digger goes in that!!

 

[Alexmac]

Which I suspect is Bunker price so only likes of motorway service areas?

no motorways near me. its just my local station in a small town.

 

[Simon edwards]

That little daf looks nice,if you do'nt mind me asking where did you source it being ex mod?

 

[Alexmac]

That's what I did, purchased a ex mod 12t daf with low mileage and had shawtrack build a beavertail for me, the body was £10.5k, over 6 ton payload, it's a euro 3 so none of that electronic/exhaust s**t to go wrong.View attachment 4318

This is ideal, the sort of thing i would like.

 

[Volbar1]

That little daf looks nice,if you do'nt mind me asking where did you source it being ex mod?

It was one of three that was at a truck dealer, I was looking for a 12t beavertail but everything I found had the guts torn out of it so had one built instead. I was thinking of having an 18t beavertail built as chassis cabs are quite cheap but got quotes of around £21k for a body

 

[Hydremaduck]

no motorways near me. its just my local station in a small town.

I get 2 prices, bunker which is motorway services and possibly some trunk road truck stops but I’ve never checked and another price for general forecourts, which was why I asked

 

[Quattromike]

We run a 7.5 ton atego, sits about a lot and only really just washes it face but we would not be able to continue our current business the way we do now without it. We landed quite a bit of work because we have the lorry although the lorry is a very small part of the job.

 

[JD450A]

Weighing in late @Alexmac so apologies but been busy.

We run our 15t skiploader, most handy bit of kit on the fleet but also sporadic in it's use and arguably a burden rather than a money earner.

You need a O license to start.... Restricted is ample for your own stuff but you cannot move other peoples property. Get this out of the way long before you start looking at trucks. I can help you with working through the paperwork but not at this hour of the morning as my brain is already trying to slide out of my ear.

Lorry wise, if your only looking to move 6-7t weight machines and have anywhere moderately tight to go then go smaller rather than bigger. 15t is a much cheaper tax class, the payload isn't hugely different and a smaller lorry I find is better day to day.

Consider a tipper or hooklift. gives more options than a standard flatbed. Yes you need a waste carriers license and a place to tip if your planning to do small loads of muckaway.

 

[V8Druid]

We run a 7.5 ton atego, sits about a lot and only really just washes it face but we would not be able to continue our current business the way we do now without it. We landed quite a bit of work because we have the lorry although the lorry is a very small part of the job.

same as I used to be ..... had to have it to deliver work and carry kit, but irregularly .... anything big went out on hired in tranny

 

[Alexmac]

Weighing in late @Alexmac so apologies but been busy.

We run our 15t skiploader, most handy bit of kit on the fleet but also sporadic in it's use and arguably a burden rather than a money earner.

You need a O license to start.... Restricted is ample for your own stuff but you cannot move other peoples property. Get this out of the way long before you start looking at trucks. I can help you with working through the paperwork but not at this hour of the morning as my brain is already trying to slide out of my ear.

Lorry wise, if your only looking to move 6-7t weight machines and have anywhere moderately tight to go then go smaller rather than bigger. 15t is a much cheaper tax class, the payload isn't hugely different and a smaller lorry I find is better day to day.

Consider a tipper or hooklift. gives more options than a standard flatbed. Yes you need a waste carriers license and a place to tip if your planning to do small loads of muckaway.

I already have my O license and class 2 so already a little way there.

I have considered a hook loader but i'm selling my dump trailer for one of the reasons being i cant be bothered with the tipping license extra that comes with it, its not worth it. So i will stick with a beaver i think.

 

[Gez_lewis]

I run a 12 ton man beavertail will sneak 7 ton payload just. It's only short so will go pretty much anywhere a transit will. 230 ponys so pulls hard aswell for a little thing.
Doesn't carry weight that well but never been over on axle weights.
I've got a 7.5 ton iveco aswell that's a rotten old thing and a man tractor unit.
Once you use a wagon you will wonder how u did without! I'm on the hunt for another at the moment

 

[Alexmac]

I run a 12 ton man beavertail will sneak 7 ton payload just. It's only short so will go pretty much anywhere a transit will. 230 ponys so pulls hard aswell for a little thing.
Doesn't carry weight that well but never been over on axle weights.
I've got a 7.5 ton iveco aswell that's a rotten old thing and a man tractor unit.
Once you use a wagon you will wonder how u did without! I'm on the hunt for another at the moment

I have been looking but not much about. Not that i’m Ready to purchase one yet, but I think a little 16t beaver tail will be ideal for what I need. I sold my low loader trailer last week and it’s the first time I’m with out anything to move my kit about, feels a bit weird relying on other people to move my gear about.

 

[Left hooker]

I’m looking at 18t as I will only need to move 6 tonne digger and dumpers, and occasionally a 9 tonne dumper.

13/14 tonner with a light body will do 8 ton ish

 

[Quattromike]

Is there a limit to the driving you do before it's classed as the main part of your work? We have a jobbie next week where I plan to load up the truck with materials and some gear, drive 6 or so hours down the road, spend approx 3 days working on site with the truck parked up, then load up the gear and drive 6 or so hours back home.

 

[craig]

Is there a limit to the driving you do before it's classed as the main part of your work? We have a jobbie next week where I plan to load up the truck with materials and some gear, drive 6 or so hours down the road, spend approx 3 days working on site with the truck parked up, then load up the gear and drive 6 or so hours back home.

I`m assuming if your asking this, your meaning tachograph exemptions, or driver cpc exemptions?
6hrs driving each way your not going to do that legally, on either eu rules or gb domestic rules (a max of 10hrs driving), so I`m thinking that trip is a full days driving and a bit the next, so driving is your main job that day , possibly days.
6hrs down the road, your going to be well out of the 100km exempt radius. If the is two of you both put a chart/card in and double man it, allowing you up to 20hrs driving if you`ve not used all your 10`s up that week, and 21hrs duty again providing you`ve got sufficient reduced daily rests available.