Plant trailer choices.

[Storrsy]

£4435+ for LM166G3 (Tri) Flush mount lashing points £50 a pair and £130 for strap box (all extra)

I wouldn't want 16ft on Dartmoor lanes unless I needed it. And looking at it.. I think I am just out of touch with prices. £6.6K + for a tri axle tipper not silly really.

That one on their website has gone, but they will build me one for the same and add prop stands, and ramps- downside of bateson is they only do steel ramps and the ally ones of my ifor won't fit/different engagement

 

[Monkeybusiness]

The firm I worked for when I learnt this where complete and utter cowboys. Where most my stories that seem far-fetched come from but will be known to a few on here. They weren't far off of playing games like that. They had a Tri axle gh with no rear ramp as the gas struts had gone and it fell on old boy and hospitalised him so they cut it off. Got used for years without a ramp but it cracked the a frame from the stress of no rear legs. I even picked tarmac up in it and nailed the tarmac sheet down across the back with a bit of roof batten.

Didn’t know you used to work for Duttons!

 

[V8Druid]

I want a nice tri axle flatbed trailer to replace my ifor. Yes I know the payload is less but will be nicer to tow the dumper around. Any recommendations- not buying ifor again- too dated. Want internal tie down points, nice ramp holder etc. half tempeted to go for a bateson Tri axle 12ft tipper they do, theyve done a great job of keeping the deck height really not much higher than a standard flatbed and weighs 920kg which I don't think is bad for a Tri axle 12ft tipper tbf.

bear in mind that you'll need a good summat in front of that, fully loaded, to 'boss' it about

I want a nice tri axle flatbed trailer to replace my ifor. Yes I know the payload is less but will be nicer to tow the dumper around. Any recommendations- not buying ifor again- too dated. Want internal tie down points, nice ramp holder etc. half tempeted to go for a bateson Tri axle 12ft tipper they do, theyve done a great job of keeping the deck height really not much higher than a standard flatbed and weighs 920kg which I don't think is bad for a Tri axle 12ft tipper tbf.

 

[doobin]

I want a nice tri axle flatbed trailer to replace my ifor. Yes I know the payload is less but will be nicer to tow the dumper around. Any recommendations- not buying ifor again- too dated. Want internal tie down points, nice ramp holder etc. half tempeted to go for a bateson Tri axle 12ft tipper they do, theyve done a great job of keeping the deck height really not much higher than a standard flatbed and weighs 920kg which I don't think is bad for a Tri axle 12ft tipper tbf.

I've not used it much, but based on the build quality and ergonomics (recessed tie points in particular) of my 14' tri axle tipper I bought secondhand, I'd look at Brian James. I'd discount a tipper for mainly moving plant though- however you spin it, they are a pig to use compared to a flatbed.

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For Devon lanes I'd be looking to keep the width down- which was a large part of me going Nugent- 6'7" width, flat to the edges (allowing overhang) and a full width rear ramp that I can pull the supports from easily to load over width things. Every other manufacturer seems to assume that as soon as the trailer is over 12' long then customers want the max legal UK width!

Nugent do a 14' 6'7" wide tri axle flatbed that would be tough as old boots (13" Savero wheels on damped leaf springs, nice reliable Knott axles) but it doesn't look particularly manouverable. Honestly, I'd stick with double axle for narrow lanes. I'd also question whether 14' was long enough- it's easier to get the balance right on a 16', and I find narrow width more important than the extra length. Don't get me wrong, I'd have a 14' if I could get away with it! But no chance with my tractor and implement combos.

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[Storrsy]

I've not used it much, but based on the build quality and ergonomics (recessed tie points in particular) of my 14' tri axle tipper I bought secondhand, I'd look at Brian James. I'd discount a tipper for mainly moving plant though- however you spin it, they are a pig to use compared to a flatbed.

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Explore our range of flatbed trailers, perfect for transporting large and bulky loads with ease and reliability over any distance.

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For Devon lanes I'd be looking to keep the width down- which was a large part of me going Nugent- 6'7" width, flat to the edges (allowing overhang) and a full width rear ramp that I can pull the supports from easily to load over width things. Every other manufacturer seems to assume that as soon as the trailer is over 12' long then customers want the max legal UK width!

Nugent do a 14' 6'7" wide tri axle flatbed that would be tough as old boots (13" Savero wheels on damped leaf springs, nice reliable Knott axles) but it doesn't look particularly manouverable. Honestly, I'd stick with double axle for narrow lanes. I'd also question whether 14' was long enough- it's easier to get the balance right on a 16', and I find narrow width more important than the extra length. Don't get me wrong, I'd have a 14' if I could get away with it! But no chance with my tractor and implement combos.

Flatbed - Nugent Engineering

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To me the distance between though axles on Nugent look too far. Plenty to like about the Nugent's as I see but tending to swing towards the bateson- although they only do steel ramps which is a little annoying. 14ft is absolutely plenty for me. I can fit the dumper easily enough on the 12ft I have but tri axle would definitely steady it better even an inch or two in the wrong spot and I can feel the difference- I love my Navara but the springs are not as tolerant to a badly loaded trailer. Brian James seem very overpriced to me. An extra £2k for equavilant tipper when comparing to the bateson..

 

[Stroppymonkey]

To me the distance between though axles on Nugent look too far. Plenty to like about the Nugent's as I see but tending to swing towards the bateson- although they only do steel ramps which is a little annoying. 14ft is absolutely plenty for me. I can fit the dumper easily enough on the 12ft I have but tri axle would definitely steady it better even an inch or two in the wrong spot and I can feel the difference- I love my Navara but the springs are not as tolerant to a badly loaded trailer. Brian James seem very overpriced to me. An extra £2k for equavilant tipper when comparing to the bateson..

I predict this being a long drawn out process ending with you buying an Ifor Williams

 

[Storrsy]

I predict this being a long drawn out process ending with you buying an Ifor Williams

Why is it when ever I put up something regarding an upcoming purchase people assume the result will be indecision and stalling

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Why is it when ever I put up something regarding an upcoming purchase people assume the result will be indecision and stalling

Looks like these do a tri 12ft, and looks like same ramp hooks as IW?

 

[Lancs Lad]

Why is it when ever I put up something regarding an upcoming purchase people assume the result will be indecision and stalling

I nearly put on yesterday this is gonna be some thread .
Just buy a lm146 with decent tie downs...

 

[Smiffy]

Looks like these do a tri 12ft, and looks like same ramp hooks as IW?

Those Irish trailers look really well engineered. But possibly a little to well engineered. I reckon they could physically carry about 20t and legally carry about 200kg.

 

[doobin]

To me the distance between though axles on Nugent look too far. Plenty to like about the Nugent's as I see but tending to swing towards the bateson- although they only do steel ramps which is a little annoying. 14ft is absolutely plenty for me. I can fit the dumper easily enough on the 12ft I have but tri axle would definitely steady it better even an inch or two in the wrong spot and I can feel the difference- I love my Navara but the springs are not as tolerant to a badly loaded trailer. Brian James seem very overpriced to me. An extra £2k for equavilant tipper when comparing to the bateson..

Yes, I thought them overpriced too. But my 14’ tri axle tipper with cage sides was 5k. New now they are nearly 10k!!

And I agree with you re the axle spacings- everything is a compromise. Either it cuts in like a bitch or it’s just as sensitive to machine placement as a twin axle- pick your poison.

 

[doobin]

Why is it when ever I put up something regarding an upcoming purchase people assume the result will be indecision and stalling

Your reputation doth precede you sir!

 

[Storrsy]

Your reputation doth precede you sir!

Sadly I suspect your right!

 

[Storrsy]

I nearly put on yesterday this is gonna be some thread .
Just buy a lm146 with decent tie downs...

Where's the fun in that though! As far as I'm aware ifor don't do decent tie downs on there flatbeds unless you do what youve done

 

[Stroppymonkey]

Where's the fun in that though! As far as I'm aware ifor don't do decent tie downs on there flatbeds unless you do what youve done

The only really good rated tie downs I could find won’t sit flush , and that would be quite annoying I think .

 

[Storrsy]

The only really good rated tie downs I could find won’t sit flush , and that would be quite annoying I think .

I thought the Nugent ones looked quite good as sit flush wgen not in use. To be fair when I move plant I don't have the sides on anyway- in fact haven't had the sides on once in the last 2 years since I bought it but my ifor is chaffing though straps badly using the under bed lashing hooks

 

[Smiffy]

I thought the Nugent ones looked quite good as sit flush wgen not in use. To be fair when I move plant I don't have the sides on anyway- in fact haven't had the sides on once in the last 2 years since I bought it but my ifor is chaffing though straps badly using the under bed lashing hooks

Cut 50mm lay flat hose into 200mm lengths and put it over the straps.

 

[V8Druid]

I thought the Nugent ones looked quite good as sit flush wgen not in use. To be fair when I move plant I don't have the sides on anyway- in fact haven't had the sides on once in the last 2 years since I bought it but my ifor is chaffing though straps badly using the under bed lashing hooks

sleeve them as Stroppy says -- I have pucka sleeves for my longer straps, which'll transfer if needed

 

[V8Druid]

Your reputation doth precede you sir!

 

[HuntingHicap]

The firm I worked for when I learnt this where complete and utter cowboys. Where most my stories that seem far-fetched come from but will be known to a few on here. They weren't far off of playing games like that. They had a Tri axle gh with no rear ramp as the gas struts had gone and it fell on old boy and hospitalised him so they cut it off. Got used for years without a ramp but it cracked the a frame from the stress of no rear legs. I even picked tarmac up in it and nailed the tarmac sheet down across the back with a bit of roof batten.

Did the name sound like Phil Steer?