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Brendan
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The older amaroks can only legally tow upto 3t and can't be uprated to tow 3.5t
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Stroppymonkey
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Spoilsport...
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Stroppymonkey
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Yeah a great car, just horrendous spares cost. I think it was the scooby answer to the Sierra XR4. It used to handle insanely well. A proper sleeper. Had the flat 4 Turbo engine that went on to end up in the Impreza I think.
Lancs Lad
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You'd need some serious bad luck to get tugged in @Storrsy neck of the woods
Flippin bridges are hardly wide enough for a car let alone an ifor
I got a quote to uprate one of mine to 3.5T from svtech ,seemed happy enough to do it.
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6feetdown
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I think apart from the 5 litre version?
Lancs Lad
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News to me ...a 5L
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Brendan
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Didn't think it was possible or at least wasn't at the time I was looking at one, due to the handbrake, not sure why handbrake would be an issue.You'd need some serious bad luck to get tugged in @Storrsy neck of the woods
Flippin bridges are hardly wide enough for a car let alone an ifor
I got a quote to uprate one of mine to 3.5T from svtech ,seemed happy enough to do it.
Just looked on the darkside site 3.5t tow is possible but can't get the gtw above 6.4t so 2.9t pulling 3.5t or vice versa. From what it says on their site they ditched trying to get 7t gtw
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Brendan
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Amaroks were only available in the 2.0 or 3.0 V6, the Touareg was available with the 5.0 v10
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6feetdown
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That was the old 1 was it a v12?News to me ...a 5L
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6feetdown
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It was a V10 just looked on autotrader
Gunners
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I've only ever had an issue with traction whilst towing once, the car in front slowed down for some random reason on an uphill corner, I had to hook first gear and she spun up. And it is a bit scary especially with traffic right behind you! Grabbed the 4wd switch and sent it! She made it fine but was a bit hard to get back out of 4wd when I found a layby to pull over in.
With decent tyres and some pace its never a problem.
Where I really miss the landrover is in its stability, engine breaking downhill and the ability to use low range to shunt around, especially reversing around a corner uphill - the nemesis of a pickup with the tow bar a fair way behind the axel!
But in every other regard, the Navara is a great daily vehicle. I've done the hot pipe twice (it still leaks a little) and cleaned the EGR pipe out as it got blocked. Also had a NOX sensor go. But all in all, that's fair I think for a 7yo truck that works for a living.
Its got to last another few years yet until someone works out a way around these BIK rules. Mine's good under the old rules until 2029 - it will be well due a replacement by then!
And I still have the old Landrover.... apart from appreciating sitting on the drive, its always ready to start and do a job if the modern car has a hissy fit I cant solve. And might just be an option to run going forward. At £45k for a new pickup, I could buy an old landrover or discovery and completely overhaul/ upgrade it for that. And apart from turning down any work near London (which would be a bonus to be honest) it would be cheap to run, easy to fix and back to reliable motoring. Its tempting....
The only thing I like about modern cars is cruise control, air conditioning and apple car play. Everything else is worse than an old discovery was back in the day!
With decent tyres and some pace its never a problem.
Where I really miss the landrover is in its stability, engine breaking downhill and the ability to use low range to shunt around, especially reversing around a corner uphill - the nemesis of a pickup with the tow bar a fair way behind the axel!
But in every other regard, the Navara is a great daily vehicle. I've done the hot pipe twice (it still leaks a little) and cleaned the EGR pipe out as it got blocked. Also had a NOX sensor go. But all in all, that's fair I think for a 7yo truck that works for a living.
Its got to last another few years yet until someone works out a way around these BIK rules. Mine's good under the old rules until 2029 - it will be well due a replacement by then!
And I still have the old Landrover.... apart from appreciating sitting on the drive, its always ready to start and do a job if the modern car has a hissy fit I cant solve. And might just be an option to run going forward. At £45k for a new pickup, I could buy an old landrover or discovery and completely overhaul/ upgrade it for that. And apart from turning down any work near London (which would be a bonus to be honest) it would be cheap to run, easy to fix and back to reliable motoring. Its tempting....
The only thing I like about modern cars is cruise control, air conditioning and apple car play. Everything else is worse than an old discovery was back in the day!
Routy56
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Welcome to the Dark Side after using JLR stuffSo bought one of these and now I'm experiencing the reality of owing a jap pickup it would seem
Yesterday I got stuck on a turd- pretty much literally going up a field so duly put it in 4wd/hi. When I tried to spin the truck around to park in the same field( quite firm surface) it started scrabbling- a bit more research deduced that due to no central diff basically 4wd regardless of hi/lo is a no no on any kind of hard surface. So haven't towed with it yet but it's autumn and the lanes around here are steep and slippery- how does one get to the top towing the digger when inevitably it starts loosing traction?
Sounds a dumb question but seems very limited system to me coming from Landrovers all my life?
@Gunners @Routy56 @Monkeybusiness @anyoneelse who knows!
Had my Navara NP300 (D23) Tekna from new and it will be 7 years old next month.
41k and no serious faults. Now running on General Grabbers.
Absolutely love this pickup truck and did my research before combining to buy it
In the 16 or so years of towing diggers, plant and cars on Ifor trailers, I have used Disco 1 300TDi, Disco 2 TD5, Disco 3 manual and Disco 3 HSE auto. It important to understand how the 4 wheel drive system works to get the best use
So you simply switch it one when needed and turn it off when you don't need it. The 'wind up effect' lets you know when you return to the hard stuff if you forget!
Now Land Rover permanent 4 wheel drive is superb and usually just gets on with it. But in my experience in a previous occupation, the first in the ditch in bad/icy weather are the pouncy 4x4 drivers who think that gives you extra safety. It doesn't
But in our world a 4x4 pickup is superb. And my Navara is often used on the soft stuff towing the trailer. Yes it get's interesting, but you can usually work it out.
Always pleased to give help and advice on stuff that I own (or simply make it up!)
Now, lets have some photos of your new Narava please
Lancs Lad
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Can't believe no one's mentioned navarras biggest let down.... absolute vosa magnet.
Coils make it look overloaded even with an empty trailer
Coils make it look overloaded even with an empty trailer
Storrsy
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Yep number 3 job on the list! Old man emu heavy duty springs. Just had tow bar fitted and set of grabbers going on tomorrow. Mines a 2019 and unfortunately only 2 months later it would have got the revised heavier springs that came with later Navaras.Can't believe no one's mentioned navarras biggest let down.... absolute vosa magnet.
Coils make it look overloaded even with an empty trailer
Gunners
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They did a lot of improvements to them actually, bigger brakes to the front (another weakness of the Navara if you arent careful) and discs on the rear. Better suspension on the rear (I believe they are also taller springs to try and correct the ride height). And they got apple car play/ android auto.
They also changed the gearbox, although between myself and my friend who owns a newer one, we both think the old gearbox is nicer to use, so maybe not all improvements.
Shame they stopped selling them here. For £22k its been a brilliant truck. There was a point 2020 where it was worth as much as I paid for it new. Should have ordered a new one in hindsight before they discontinued them. Although another friend of mine has one that's been off the road for 2 months now waiting for parts - under warranty luckily but a bit concerning for those of us still running them with no backup. I'd have been in a scrapyard by now to solve it but guess Nissan cant do that.
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Brendan
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I'm sure mad and VB do an air helper that goes inside the rear springs, also part of the gtw upgrade if you decide to do it at a later date, not sure if the old man emu would be but they're more than likely tuv rated so a possibility if uprated
Routy56
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Never had that problem with my Navara.....Can't believe no one's mentioned navarras biggest let down.... absolute vosa magnet.
Coils make it look overloaded even with an empty trailer
.....mind you last time I was stopped by DVSA at Tilbury I was driving a loaded 44T grain lorry. It was old but in good order on 6 weeklies
When the nice DVSA nuts and bolts man saw me he said, "You can piss off Routy, we won't find anything wrong with you"
We stood chatting for another 20 mins or so and he gave the operator I was driving for another green light - it pays to be nice
So regarding the springs on my '68 plate' Navara, they are standard. Never felt the need to upgrade them. Mind you I do miss the Disco 3 air suspension for self levelling. My Ifor sits nice and level whatever the load is and always pay attention to the nose weight. Just bear in mind that he cannot expect to put 1 tonne in the back and get away with it while towing
Last week I stuck 16 x 20kg bag of postcrete in the back and it hardly deflected.
So nope its standard spring for me every day of the week
Storrsy
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£22k seems bonkers now! you can't beat rattling around in an old landrover imo, parts are cheap and plentiful, plenty of specialist places that work on them, it's also far more relaxing in the Devon lanes just being able to stove it in the hedge with out giving it much thought. However my old disco was averaging 17mpg in the lanes will see what the Navara returns once I've used the first tank, hopefully considerably better- might even pay for it's depreciation over the next few years in fuel savings.
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Russell
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I've been looking in to it recently as the disco has been annoying me and i want a pickup. A new single cab is £35,000+vat , 40k miles is £25k and and over 100k miles is £10k +.
I don't really fancy any of those.
I think for me it will be try to find a rough old sub £5k jap thing or rebuild a defender high cap.
To be honest though I'm not sure if Im up for doing another lr.
I don't really fancy any of those.
I think for me it will be try to find a rough old sub £5k jap thing or rebuild a defender high cap.
To be honest though I'm not sure if Im up for doing another lr.
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Stroppymonkey
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23k for a Dmax when I was looking in 2021
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