Desert adventures

[Conor]

How can you spend £££ building somthing, stop, then demolish it, such a waste of materials. Let alone the time/effort in doing it.

I'm far far from green but things like that is a total waste.

It is crazy, and what's more almost all the material is on site to finish the building. There is a huge amount of the material being salvaged and sold on but still hugely wasteful. It boils down to the developer realising the land is now more valuable as residential as it is a prime location.

As for Neom, that's in Saudi not Dubai but its typical of how things are done in the region. They hire the best people use the best materials, they will finish some of it, some will be stopped halfway through and left to rot and some the plans will be changed halfway through and redone at great cost but that's OK because they have the money !

 

[Grahams]

It is crazy, and what's more almost all the material is on site to finish the building. There is a huge amount of the material being salvaged and sold on but still hugely wasteful. It boils down to the developer realising the land is now more valuable as residential as it is a prime location.

As for Neom, that's in Saudi not Dubai but its typical of how things are done in the region. They hire the best people use the best materials, they will finish some of it, some will be stopped halfway through and left to rot and some the plans will be changed halfway through and redone at great cost but that's OK because they have the money !

I can see where they are coming from, if circumstances change and you realise you have made a mistake, far better to stop and do the right thing if it is financially the best option. Not many people are big enough to admit mistakes when millions of pounds into a project and start again. Too many people see the amount of money already spent and feel they must keep going rather than evaluating from where they are now (the sunk cost fallacy).

 

[Conor]

I can see where they are coming from, if circumstances change and you realise you have made a mistake, far better to stop and do the right thing if it is financially the best option. Not many people are big enough to admit mistakes when millions of pounds into a project and start again. Too many people see the amount of money already spent and feel they must keep going rather than evaluating from where they are now (the sunk cost fallacy).

Yes I agree it can be the right thing to do, though in this case it's not quite as clear cut. I was actually working for the contractor who was building it at the time and lets just say there's always good stories with projects like this out here much of which couldn't be posted on a public forum

 

[Conor]

Well the stadium is finally gone, far and away the most technically and physically challenging job I've undertaken and probably ever will. The steel structure (50mm thick tube in places) was too heavy for shears so massive amount of cranage and gas cutting involved to get it down. The numbers are staggering in terms of scrap and we're not finished yet still on the foundations now. We needed some heavier gear for the foundation so hired in 2 50 tons with breakers to work alongside our own 470 hitach and the kobelco has seriously impressed over the past week. The hitachi and komatsu just can't compete in terms of production.

 

[Lancs Lad]

Well the stadium is finally gone, far and away the most technically and physically challenging job I've undertaken and probably ever will. The steel structure (50mm thick tube in places) was too heavy for shears so massive amount of cranage and gas cutting involved to get it down. The numbers are staggering in terms of scrap and we're not finished yet still on the foundations now. We needed some heavier gear for the foundation so hired in 2 50 tons with breakers to work alongside our own 470 hitach and the kobelco has seriously impressed over the past week. The hitachi and komatsu just can't compete in terms of production.

Awesome,one hell of a job
Thanks for sharing

Is that artic load going on the road?

 

[Conor]

Awesome,one hell of a job
Thanks for sharing

Is that artic load going on the road?

Yes the artics going on the road with up to 40 ton of scrap on board (we put a weighbridge in on site) held together by some rotten old ply and the hopes and dreams of some Pakistani boys thinking they're making a fortune charging around 150 a trip which they can only get one a day. Just to note we're not using these trucks the scrap buyers bring them, that's how it's done over here nobody even thought of using bulk tippers

 

[Furniss]

War or the worlds .........great photo

 

[Conor]

No half loads here

 

[Giles]

Time to import some scrap bodies bulk tippers and corner the market

 

[DaveDCB]

Mogman is already on the ferry!!

 

[V8Druid]

Mogman is already on the ferry!!

not for 150 quid a trip he's not

 

[DaveDCB]

not for 150 quid a trip he's not

I read it as they paid 150 for a load.. this you can get a full load of copper on the back for £150

 

[V8Druid]

I read it as they paid 150 for a load.. this you can get a full load of copper on the back for £150

Pakistani boys thinking they're making a fortune charging around 150 a trip

er .. think they're hauling for 150 quid a load

 

[Conor]

I read it as they paid 150 for a load.. this you can get a full load of copper on the back for £150

Graham's right thankfully 150 quid to transport a load. Scrap prices are actually better here than at home but they'd want to be because dealing with scrap dealers here is just mental, some of the stories you literally wouldn't believe - I certainly wouldn't had I not seen them myself. I've had death threats, caught more guys robbing material or trying to and I'm sure we didn't catch them all, guys trying to bribe me, caught some of our own guys taking money off scrap companies to get better material etc just a constant head melt phone calls and messages 24/7 from the middle easts answers to steptoe and son "sir I am scrap material need, inshallah good price coming"

 

[Conor]

We needed space to store containers and our weigh bridge the Albanian and pakistani crusher guys we work with kindly gave us space in one of their yards, so loaded up 8 trailers yesterday morning and headed and hour and a half out into the middle of the abu dhabi desert to an industrial area with nothing else around it and while waiting for the crane to arrive I went for a wander. Hundreds of yards ram packed with old machines in bits but these caught my eye the old oil field trucks looking sorry for themselves.

 

[6feetdown]

We needed space to store containers and our weigh bridge the Albanian and pakistani crusher guys we work with kindly gave us space in one of their yards, so loaded up 8 trailers yesterday morning and headed and hour and a half out into the middle of the abu dhabi desert to an industrial area with nothing else around it and while waiting for the crane to arrive I went for a wander. Hundreds of yards ram packed with old machines in bits but these caught my eye the old oil field trucks looking sorry for themselves.

Few dollars worth in their day

 

[JD450A]

We needed space to store containers and our weigh bridge the Albanian and pakistani crusher guys we work with kindly gave us space in one of their yards, so loaded up 8 trailers yesterday morning and headed and hour and a half out into the middle of the abu dhabi desert to an industrial area with nothing else around it and while waiting for the crane to arrive I went for a wander. Hundreds of yards ram packed with old machines in bits but these caught my eye the old oil field trucks looking sorry for themselves.

Buy one for the craic

 

[Conor]

Buy one for the craic

Getting an f150 into my apartments parking space is a struggle never mind one of them beasts

 

[JD450A]

Getting an f150 into my apartments parking space is a struggle never mind one of them beasts

Do it

 

[Conor]

One of a few jobs going on at the minute, demolishing two massive bases for what were supposed to be 2 huge water tanks out in the desert that were scrapped. Tight deadline but as easy and straightforward a job as we will ever have just break it out and clean out then push sand back in with a blade