MacAulay Plant Services

[jimbo]

I’d be quite interested to see the source for this. We ran tests with 100% bio and it was very nasty stuff. After a spillage it lifted the epoxy floor coating in the test cell and ate into the concrete. Doubt it would do a bird any good.

very suprised to hear it ate through concrete since its ph neutral and non toxic.

if the base oil feedstock is really bad quality you can make using sulphuric acid as a catalyst instead of a base catalysed method but the problem is that you dont get a very good conversion from acid catalysis so you then have to do the base process after the acid pathway.

If they just did the acid pathway and didn't even wash the fuel then thats the only way that this could happen.

But this fuel would never meet or even come close to EN14214 which is the biodiesel standard. where did you get it from?

 

[jimbo]

That’s like saying lager is bitter as they’re mostly water. It shares a chemical base, but it isn’t bio diesel. If I’m wrong, let me know how you get on running the solvent through one of your engines.

i run fine on either lager or bitter to be fair. but its more like having tea with or without milk and sugar because your just adding things to it whereas lager and bitter are actually made differently

 

[jimbo]

Biodiesel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

theres a bit on there about cleaning oil spills

 

[Bri963]

very suprised to hear it ate through concrete since its ph neutral and non toxic.

if the base oil feedstock is really bad quality you can make using sulphuric acid as a catalyst instead of a base catalysed method but the problem is that you dont get a very good conversion from acid catalysis so you then have to do the base process after the acid pathway.

If they just did the acid pathway and didn't even wash the fuel then thats the only way that this could happen.

But this fuel would never meet or even come close to EN14214 which is the biodiesel standard. where did you get it from?

Can’t remember where it came from, but it may have been close to ten years ago iirc. However, it happened, I had to clean up the aftermath. A lot of things happen in the early stages of product development that manufacturers aren’t too keen to shout about. We didn’t develop that particular fuel, we just tested it, and only the once.

 

[V8Druid]

Pardon our interruption...

just reading this guys listing for Gaz's wonder-juice and he's based in @Vinpetrol 's 'back yard' /stamping ground

 

[6feetdown]

just reading this guys listing for Gaz's wonder-juice and he's based in @Vinpetrol 's 'back yard' /stamping ground

So would this be worth using in vans etc?

 

[V8Druid]

So would this be worth using in vans etc?

interesting Q ... measuring the quantities to add'd be interesting though at 1:3000 .. 16.7cc,s in a 50 litre fill ... do-able with a syringe, I 'spose

 

[GazCro]

So would this be worth using in vans etc?

I fill pickup and van from bulk tank and tbh pickup is far cleaner running than on any forecourt fuel. In theory it should make fuel equivalent to premium diesel on forecourt (v power etc).

 

[V8Druid]

I fill pickup and van from bulk tank and tbh pickup is far cleaner running than on any forecourt fuel. In theory it should make fuel equivalent to premium diesel on forecourt (v power etc).

ideal if you have a bulk tank Gaz ... seems most here're using fuel cards though

 

[6feetdown]

ideal if you have a bulk tank Gaz ... seems most here're using fuel cards though

100ltr portable tank for ours not huge but can fill on forecourt so could use in their for small plant

 

[Vinpetrol]

just reading this guys listing for Gaz's wonder-juice and he's based in @Vinpetrol 's 'back yard' /stamping ground

He is indeed , and I’m working right beside Kinloss depot when we go back after the break .
I will call in !

 

[Vinpetrol]

We are pretty lucky up here as very little bio added to fuel as we get all fuel by boat its pretty pure as they can't take hydroscopic fuel on the boats for obvious reasons, but I add fuel set into fuel regularly

Are you using simpsons?

 

[JerryRtilt]

ideal if you have a bulk tank Gaz ... seems most here're using fuel cards though

I'v been using Archoil AR6900 from "Powerenhancer: in my pickup for several years now, comes with a convenient dispenser, cost effective way to upgrade to Premium spec. diesel. At MOT time emission test results have always been low, if that's anything to go by. It claims to deal with the hydroscopic effects of bio diesel but weather it does as effectively as the Exocet product i don't know, going to try that in my plant first to try and resolve the current problem with the Volvo.

 

[Alan caddy]

Are you using simpsons?

No All fuel here comes from certas Grangemouth refinery direct, and comes in by boat unless anybody arranges there own fuel and pays to get it tankered up

 

[GazCro]

I'v been using Archoil AR6900 from "Powerenhancer: in my pickup for several years now, comes with a convenient dispenser, cost effective way to upgrade to Premium spec. diesel. At MOT time emission test results have always been low, if that's anything to go by. It claims to deal with the hydroscopic effects of bio diesel but weather it does as effectively as the Exocet product i don't know, going to try that in my plant first to try and resolve the current problem with the Volvo.

There's a few different makes but likely all the same basic ingredients tbh.

 

[Vinpetrol]

No All fuel here comes from certas Grangemouth refinery direct, and comes in by boat unless anybody arranges there own fuel and pays to get it tankered up

I asked as I use them . I knew they supplied boats so they will supply diesel without bio

 

[wee_gus]

We have noticed lately that the fuel filters don’t last anywhere near as long as usual.

 

[DaveDCB]

We have noticed lately that the fuel filters don’t last anywhere near as long as usual.

Is that due to cold weather and waxing or just poor quality fuel with crap in it? Also red or white diesel?
Out of interest is everyone behaving and using white diesel where they should?

 

[wee_gus]

We only have 2 customers still on red due to Forrestry, 1 had issues and other didn’t.
Majority are on white.

We had one site go down with fuel gelling but only on certain machines which I thought was odd.

Majority it would appear to be diesel big issue in my opinion

 

[V8Druid]

" Effects of FAME content in Diesel ---- The bio element is called FAME (Fatty Acid Methyl Esters) which is largely produced from recycled cooking oils and renewable oil sources. This increase in the bio content of Gas Oil is being reflected negatively nationally, with reports of clogged filters and low fuel pressure resulting in vehicle downtime. "
FAME is also in bio-DERV