Your thoughts now on Tiltrotators.

Storrsy

Storrsy

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I used the gieth tilt bucket for years, it was 390 kg and too much, 450kg is going to be pretty miserable.
Quite surprised it felt that bad. The grab for my case was the same weight as that and Case didnt eve notice it- even with a ton of granite in its claws it felt pretty solid
 
Furniss

Furniss

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Hmmm the Kubota was noddy compared to the wacker also if you were trying to crowd open that tilt bucket full of muck into the dumper it didn't like to crowd and lift it up at same time if you know what I mean, whereas the wacker did it easily, doesn't really make sense because the kub would outlift the wacker as you'd expect.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Hmmm the Kubota was noddy compared to the wacker also if you were trying to crowd open that tilt bucket full of muck into the dumper it didn't like to crowd and lift it up at same time if you know what I mean, whereas the wacker did it easily, doesn't really make sense because the kub would outlift the wacker as you'd expect.
ram sizes???
 
JerryRtilt

JerryRtilt

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Hmmm the Kubota was noddy compared to the wacker also if you were trying to crowd open that tilt bucket full of muck into the dumper it didn't like to crowd and lift it up at same time if you know what I mean, whereas the wacker did it easily, doesn't really make sense because the kub would outlift the wacker as you'd expect.
It wasn’t so much a noddy problem with the tilt bucket, more of a pendulum affect when slewing, and the crowding problem, didn’t help I IMG_6959.jpeghad Digbits add wear strips etc.
 
Furniss

Furniss

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The price of them makes them a tough sell if you need 2 or 3 machines to cover your work, I couldn't put a tilty on the 3t and the 8t and expect it to make sense, but if you can have a main machine that does 90% of your jobs then it's a lot easier to pull the trigger.
2 years in and mine has easily paid for itself in time saved, many a week it clearly saves us a day so the maths is simple enough.

I waited till I could pay for the tilty outright but in hindsight I would of financed the package earlier and it would pay for itself easily.
 
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MaxC

MaxC

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Doubled in price in 9 years!! Going to be hard going trying to sell them to newbies at that price… can hardly take a punt at 22k!!
haha tell me about it man, I'm getting back into operating after 6-7 years of a soul sucking inside job and I want to get my own machine but even with some good savings a TB225 here in AUS runs about $55k and a Engcon EC02 alone without the joysticks setup is about another $17-20k on top, trying to justify almost half the cost of a 2.4ton machine is not easy.
 
JerryRtilt

JerryRtilt

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Think perhaps the smaller the machine the harder it is to maximize the benefits due to reach / power - those cheaper little 4p packages or how @doobin has done it is the way to go maybe.
The other side of that view is smaller machines get used for more intricate work at times where a tiltrotator is more beneficial?
I have noticed a lot of Scandinavian smaller machines run 4 pipe systems, it’s been pretty rare for smaller machines here to be specked with more than one aux.
6 years ago I look the view that if I was investing in this system I wanted the best available but in today’s climate and with a lot more knowledge I’d certainly consider a cheaper alternative.
 
Left hooker

Left hooker

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Reason I have up to date price is I'm changing my 4 year old tilty but only the tilty keeping the current controls and buckets
Got a price for the unit only at 10.5k , 13.5k with out a discount plus trade in price on old one at 4.5k makes changing only just over 6k plus vat
I do use mine loads and it gets worked hard so being a main go to machine it's worth the change
 
Furniss

Furniss

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Reason I have up to date price is I'm changing my 4 year old tilty but only the tilty keeping the current controls and buckets
Got a price for the unit only at 10.5k , 13.5k with out a discount plus trade in price on old one at 4.5k makes changing only just over 6k plus vat
£1500 a year seems decent 👍 if my mental arithmetic is right:)

how many hours on the unit ? Why are you changing it ?
 
Left hooker

Left hooker

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£1500 a year seems decent 👍

how many hours on the unit ? Why are you changing it ?
4k hrs on this current tilty and was back 4 years ago 9.6k I paid for it
The rotary coupling inside has a random leak, leaks one day not the next few so before it starts costing me get it gone and new one to run on
I dig lots of hard ground so it doesn't get an easy life with me
This new one will be my 3 unit when I get it in April just have to pay now as end of year is end of the month
 
doobin

doobin

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Reason I have up to date price is I'm changing my 4 year old tilty but only the tilty keeping the current controls and buckets
Got a price for the unit only at 10.5k , 13.5k with out a discount plus trade in price on old one at 4.5k makes changing only just over 6k plus vat
I do use mine loads and it gets worked hard so being a main go to machine it's worth the change
10.5k is for just the tilty? But 22k with control system (still no buckets though)?

Have I understood right?

They wanted 14.5k for a four pipe ec209. They also wanted to charge me £700 for ‘installation’🙄
 
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bobthebuilder

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Storrsy

Storrsy

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10.5k is for just the tilty? But 22k with control system (still no buckets though)?

Have I understood right?

They wanted 14.5k for a four pipe ec209. They also wanted to charge me £700 for ‘installation’🙄
Installation- What plugging 4 pipes in!?
 
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