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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Giles

Giles

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70k buys you this… low hours as per usual…

Polish built aka Paul Marsden again this is his second Kubota engcon setup in 1.5 years with a kobelc steel wrist failure in the middle after the Turkish backhoe roto tilt experiment that came from the case backhoe rototilt that didn’t even get out the dealers yard
 
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Furniss

Furniss

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70k buys you this… low hours as per usual…

Looks nice and got all the toys apart from the 🦀 :)
You'd have to have 10mins in it to see if it handled the weight ok with a grader full of material turned around face shovel style and at full stretch, it's surprising how often you use them like that at for handling material, if you can't do that then you loose a lot that that they offer in respect to limiting machine movements.
 
Furniss

Furniss

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No this is another one,

Says he’s going driving a machine in local quarry it’s better money than running this on day rate
Begs the question ' Why would you go all in like that to work on day rate unless you had some regular day rate customers who were going to stump up and appreciate the investment for Xtra productivity, if not hitch n 3 buckets and maybe powertilt surely 🤷‍♂️
Something not quite right ...
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Looks nice and got all the toys apart from the 🦀 :)
You'd have to have 10mins in it to see if it handled the weight ok with a grader full of material turned around face shovel style and at full stretch, it's surprising how often you use them like that at for handling material, if you can't do that then you loose a lot that that they offer in respect to limiting machine movements.
Does look a hell of a lump out the front (200kg) on a zero. Plus top hitch and bucket I reckon your right tippy as fook when span into face shovel mode.
 
Giles

Giles

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Polish built(one of his classic tractors apparently) aka Paul Marsden dates back to old forum he’s took Eddie’s advice and had an old u50 and engcon having always been backhoe based. Had Volvo then new 3cx and no end of problems well documented on the old forum. In the past he’s tried things like rm90 rubble master crusher at £500 a day but couldn’t make it pay with wear and tear etc.

So he put 5000 hours on old u50-4 and loved it, then he had the idea of backhoe tilty as he currently uses tractor trailer to move his machine even into Sheffield suburbs etc and the farmers of the valley loved the full 8-10 hours no messing around with moving it etc especially if doing few jobs across 300 acres and his rate he’d go out at.

So settled on a new case backhoe and a rototilt through old forum regular Sean, Sean assured him it’s work etc. had no end of problems backhoe arrived with wrong tyres on to ones ordered so then sat while that was sorted then they tried fitting rototilt and it wouldn’t work. Hydraulics on the case just were not for having a tilty so he fell out with Sean then decided to try a hydramek and put the rototilt on it. That did actually work and he ran it for a month or two before deciding it was too heavy and numb on the rear arm so that went then

upgraded to new u50-5 with new engcon and hated it. Refused to drive it, used his old u50-4 for 6 months while the new one sat in shed.

He then sold the old one used the new u50 for a month then sold it for about same as this one is for sale.

Ordered a kobelco and steelwrist, funnily timed just as ollies video review of the kobelco came out slating it as the worse 5 ton machine!

I’ve some videos from him of the kobelco shared with Druid tilt ram slipping around with riddle bucket on and forks wouldn’t rotate with a bulk bag on etc

Then this Kubota again for a few months, he seems to have some loyal farm and big house customers, he does the spanner work for a £60m odd guy who owns a huge hall/stately home and farm and is buying up most the valley.

But he has been quiet ended up doing a job I’d worked with client to get grants for etc then Paul who was somewhat neighbour to the guy did it after client used my quotes/plan to get ecology grants.

Started doing some relief driving for quarry on 13 ton and shovel and says it’s good job in at 6 brew till 8 home or 1. Same money he was on!

Mates at same quarry they pay like £15-20 an hour depending on experience etc
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
must have money to burn :rolleyes::oops::oops:

and those vid.s were diabolical :(o_O:oops::cry:(" videos from him of the kobelco shared with Druid tilt ram slipping around with riddle bucket on and forks wouldn’t rotate with a bulk bag on etc ")
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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must have money to burn :rolleyes::oops::oops:

and those vid.s were diabolical :(o_O:oops::cry:(" videos from him of the kobelco shared with Druid tilt ram slipping around with riddle bucket on and forks wouldn’t rotate with a bulk bag on etc ")
Anyone care to figure what he's spent ..or lost on this whim? 😲😲
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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He’s made a real pigs ear of it all hasn’t he(no offence to him at all!!)…but he’s certainly learned the hard way. In that time I’ve had one machine & 1 tilty.. never had to fix either… with no need to consider swapping anytime soon! 🥵
Hmmm I don't know when I get access to cash and are left unsupervised I can't rule anything out 🫢
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Haha I'm the opposite. The more money I get the more I detest spending any of it😂
Thinking about it this was the reason I stumbled on this bleddy forum was looking at some machines and looking for advice etc and trying to talk myself out of buying whatever it was....ive never flipping left 😂😂😂 and now I've a list as long as my arm of stuff I want .
 
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