TiltyShaun
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Suitable for the Kx71-3 with S30
Dr pecker
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£6500 less 5% plant talk discount delivered.
doobin
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You'd need to be on a site with very tricky access to make that pay compared with just a clean concrete muckaway with crush delivered on the same trip, IMHO. One of those things I love the idea of, but hard commercial reality gets in the way 
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OBL
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Yeah I get that, access (or lack of it) is the key but I can think of two awkward jobs in the last six months that would have paid enough to buy a bucket for 6k if I had a big enough machine to run it.You'd need to be on a site with very tricky access to make that pay compared with just a clean concrete muckaway with crush delivered on the same trip, IMHO. One of those things I love the idea of, but hard commercial reality gets in the way
With two machines on site one pecking and the other crushing even at a smaller rate I think it would make for a fairly relaxing day... and maybe a more attractive rate of hire? ie. you’re making the money not the guy on the grab/quarry?
And to certain clients the smaller carbon footprint is a big bonus...
Years ago we tried a micro crusher (fitted through a door) it worked for the job but output was slow and it was a hand load only Or it just got overfaced Loading it with a micro unless you had a grab... At least you’re in a seat with the bucket!
GazCro
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You need a minimum level of production to make it worth it and it's no good achieving that production by making hardcore which is too big (even decent sized hired in crushers want to do this).You'd need to be on a site with very tricky access to make that pay compared with just a clean concrete muckaway with crush delivered on the same trip, IMHO. One of those things I love the idea of, but hard commercial reality gets in the way
But you do have to factor in the cost of muckaway and agg back in which could be in your pocket rather than someone else's at no extra cost to customer.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
to say now't of the buggeration factor of getting it in / out of tight access spots
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6feetdown
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Yeah tried a red rhino years ago crushing bricks it did a good job but painfully slow and like you said easier to load by handYeah I get that, access (or lack of it) is the key but I can think of two awkward jobs in the last six months that would have paid enough to buy a bucket for 6k if I had a big enough machine to run it.
With two machines on site one pecking and the other crushing even at a smaller rate I think it would make for a fairly relaxing day... and maybe a more attractive rate of hire? ie. you’re making the money not the guy on the grab/quarry?
And to certain clients the smaller carbon footprint is a big bonus...
Years ago we tried a micro crusher (fitted through a door) it worked for the job but output was slow and it was a hand load only Or it just got overfaced Loading it with a micro unless you had a grab... At least you’re in a seat with the bucket!
Dr pecker
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This is the product and we rattled through around 8 ton today (7 hours) on a 22" bucket fitted to a JCB 8026
GazCro
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Forget about access, cost, carbon footprint etc you need a certain level of production or else ur easy day sitting crushing becomes a soul destroying mind numbingly boring day you'll wish you'd never started.Yeah I get that, access (or lack of it) is the key but I can think of two awkward jobs in the last six months that would have paid enough to buy a bucket for 6k if I had a big enough machine to run it.
With two machines on site one pecking and the other crushing even at a smaller rate I think it would make for a fairly relaxing day... and maybe a more attractive rate of hire? ie. you’re making the money not the guy on the grab/quarry?
And to certain clients the smaller carbon footprint is a big bonus...
Years ago we tried a micro crusher (fitted through a door) it worked for the job but output was slow and it was a hand load only Or it just got overfaced Loading it with a micro unless you had a grab... At least you’re in a seat with the bucket!
Don't forget compare the cost of muckaway and hardcore back in against ur hourly cost crushing and that'll give you your minimum tonnage per hour you need. If your pricing work or (shhh) crushing back at yard anything more than covering ur hourly rate is quids in (8 ton an hour might not sound a huge amount but it equates to a v nice hourly rate for my 290).
Furniss
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So a man/machine + fuel for 7hours = 8t of crush ?
doobin
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Like I said, needs to be really tricky access/special circumstances! And realistically, how many jobs have access that makes it easier to crush on site yet you can get a 2.5t into??
If you want real time and money savings on this kind of job, get a loader and a ripper tooth.
Dr pecker
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Yes, not bad for a little bucket at that size
TiltyShaun
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I am not entirely sure but I think @Furniss might have been wondering “Is that all?”
You really have to look at the economics of how much it would cost to skip that and bring in virgin material.
Personally I am lucky that I can stick 150-200 tonne back at the yard and crush it and use it at the farm.
Where the crusher bucket works is on a smaller scale where 5-8 ton is not cheap to dispose so the saving on that makes it worthwhile.
Quattromike
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There is also convenience to consider, some of us are not able to pick up the phone and call a muckaway guy to take stuff as and when, can be weeks in some cases so if you're self sufficient and deal with it at your leasure and not dependent on anyone then it must make sense. But everyone has a different situation so hourses for corses imo
GazCro
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It no good if it works out dearer than getting a skip/grab for the rubble and then the cost of subbase back in though. You probably need an absolute minimum of 2 ton an hour to break even on costs but you need double that for your own sanity.
Furniss
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It's probably really unfair of me to say so and everyone's situation is different as Mike points out but I'm like thinking that's 7 hours of someone's life they will never get back 
JD450A
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Thermalight blocks might make it better.....
Dr pecker
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Some very valid and interesting points brought up chaps and differing opinions of course, all constructive
My apologies for some confusion here.
My photo above is an hour's production at 40-70mm, just simply to show you the size with the reducer plate fitted he got through the rest of the pile behind it by the end of the day.(7 hours in total).
I will also upload another photo of a days production without the plate, 80-150mm
My apologies for some confusion here.
My photo above is an hour's production at 40-70mm, just simply to show you the size with the reducer plate fitted he got through the rest of the pile behind it by the end of the day.(7 hours in total).
I will also upload another photo of a days production without the plate, 80-150mm
Dr pecker
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1 days production 80-150mm
JD450A
Feral as Fk 🐾
Personal opinion is there are very few jobs these fit in.... I'm actually toying with one but the current diesel price goes against it.
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