Welcome to the CCP...... Sany SY18C

[JD450A]

I still can't get over this is even a legit thread!!
Unless it's a big leg pull

Do the maths.

I could be a Takeuchi with it's exceptionally short warranty.... I also know of a member on here who when his boom twisted and the warranty mattered found it was worthless.

Being realistic with gate drop values is sense, and let's be honest your Takeuchi will drop 5-10k in it's first week of work..... No one is buying any machine a year old from anyone but the main dealer without a significant discount.

At what I'm getting as PX, plus 0%, plus the fact I trust the dealer. I don't think there is much matching from elsewhere.

 

[Storrsy]

Do the maths.

I could be a Takeuchi with it's exceptionally short warranty.... I also know of a member on here who when his boom twisted and the warranty mattered found it was worthless.

Being realistic with gate drop values is sense, and let's be honest your Takeuchi will drop 5-10k in it's first week of work..... No one is buying any machine a year old from anyone but the main dealer without a significant discount.

At what I'm getting as PX, plus 0%, plus the fact I trust the dealer. I don't think there is much matching from elsewhere.

Ultimately as long as it stacks up for you then who are we to argue!

 

[Storrsy]

Personally I don't care about first year or second year valuations. To me id cost a machine over say 5000hrs and and what is going to cost me the least in that 5000hrs. Tracks and servicing aside I'd expect very little extra outlay in that time frame.

 

[JD450A]

Personally I don't care about first year or second year valuations. To me id cost a machine over say 5000hrs and and what is going to cost me the least in that 5000hrs. Tracks and servicing aside I'd expect very little extra outlay in that time frame.

And that's the reality of why I'm leaning to the Sany.

5 years, 5000hr warranty..... It's unlikely I'll craic it to 5000hrs in that timeframe but if I do we are safe theoretically.

At £50/hr it needs to do around 2000hrs to break even, which is very manageable.

 

[doobin]

And that's the reality of why I'm leaning to the Sany.

5 years, 5000hr warranty..... It's unlikely I'll craic it to 5000hrs in that timeframe but if I do we are safe theoretically.

At £50/hr it needs to do around 2000hrs to break even, which is very manageable.

£50 per hour sounds cheap. What does that include?

 

[JD450A]

£50 per hour sounds cheap. What does that include?

Operator, fuel, machine.

In reality it's more, I charge £500 a day and tend to work 8hrs, but I still base my sums off it as it's a nice number and working out based on lower rather than higher sides with pessermism.

I will also likely tweak the rate up with a new machine.

 

[doobin]

I'm £750 a day for my 86c, but that's grab work and does include an operator who can use a saw as well.

If you have the work to put the hours on it, a new machine is never a bad purchase. I'm up to 1200 hours on my E27 which is 2 years old.

 

[Lancs Lad]

And certain folk round here think it's clever to run out with a sawmill and trailer etc for £350 a day!

 

[Smiffy]

And certain folk round here think it's clever to run out with a sawmill and trailer etc for £350 a day!

Your forgetting the rakes of people running around with a 2.7t machine for £300-350 a day. When they would literally be better off driving someone else machine.

 

[Thomas7740]

Your forgetting the rakes of people running around with a 2.7t machine for £300-350 a day. When they would literally be better off driving someone else machine.

Depends where you are in the country tho, we are £40/hr with the 2.7t and that’s in average/verging on high, any more and I would be pricing myself out of the market.

 

[Storrsy]

Hourly rates are just fraught with disappointment IMO. My pricing is very much in line with how much I like/want the job! But you'll never get everyone to agree on a rate because of geography and individual outgoings/life requirements. £40 on the face of it doesn't make much sense at all but if push came to shove (L) I'd still sooner be out at that and choose my jobs and working hrs than nose to the grindstone working for someone else.

 

[Big Jordy]

https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/new-unused-2026-sany-sy70c-7-ton-quick-hitch/42595274

https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/brand-new-sany-sy35u-c-w-thumb-grab/42517645?modal=gallery

Just throw this here, and can I honestly ask are them prices legit? Asking cause I don’t have a clue about prices of new stuff

 

[JD450A]

https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/new-unused-2026-sany-sy70c-7-ton-quick-hitch/42595274

https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/brand-new-sany-sy35u-c-w-thumb-grab/42517645?modal=gallery

Just throw this here, and can I honestly ask are them prices legit? Asking cause I don’t have a clue about prices of new stuff

Euroauctions greymarket specials.... Neither will have warranty I believe although @Regy53 can confirm/Tell me i'm talking bollocks

The SY70 is a 75 without auxillerys.

 

[Gunners]

£50 per hour sounds cheap. What does that include?

It includes him not being in Surrey. Don't forget, we live in a bit of a weird bubble around here Doob. But we do pay for the privilege with our house prices.

 

[Big Jordy]

Euroauctions greymarket specials.... Neither will have warranty I believe although @Regy53 can confirm/Tell me i'm talking bollocks

The SY70 is a 75 without auxillerys.

Thanks for that Rory, honestly didn’t think about them being grey market

 

[JD450A]

Thanks for that Rory, honestly didn’t think about them being grey market

I could pick a 2024 SY75C from china for under 20k.... but it's a big gamble having no warranty. There is a reason I didn't buy a new 7 tonner first although I have accelerated the timescales....

 

[hiluxman]

Hourly rates are just fraught with disappointment IMO. My pricing is very much in line with how much I like/want the job! But you'll never get everyone to agree on a rate because of geography and individual outgoings/life requirements. £40 on the face of it doesn't make much sense at all but if push came to shove (L) I'd still sooner be out at that and choose my jobs and working hrs than nose to the grindstone working for someone else.

I work on a day rate for alot of my one off/irregular customers. I don't bother with hourly. I've cut off times and allow time includes travelling.

Similar to you the rate quoted is dependent on how much I want the job ect.

I've several customers that just let me turn up and do the job without costing. That way they get a job done at a fair cost to them and me a decent wage and profit. Took me years to find the customers and build that type of trust up with them.

 

[Storrsy]

I could pick a 2024 SY75C from china for under 20k.... but it's a big gamble having no warranty. There is a reason I didn't buy a new 7 tonner first although I have accelerated the timescales....

Get it bought at £20k! I could live with that kind of gamble

 

[Storrsy]

I could pick a 2024 SY75C from china for under 20k.... but it's a big gamble having no warranty. There is a reason I didn't buy a new 7 tonner first although I have accelerated the timescales....

Your going to look very presentable with all this new gear. Your customers will be like oooh Rory's doing well!

 

[Regy53]

Lot of grey machines . There's a bulletin from Sany which gives some advise. But not built for our market