the Global Warming fiasco -- or how to tax the **** out of us

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LKSF

Pennine Hillbilly
yeh .. they're hell bent on pushing wind farms regardless ..... 's probably been rubber stamped already 🤬
No it hasn't, it's only in the very early stages. A heck of a lot of work has been done already into opposing it, FB group, Demos, website with a lot of content, various blogs. It's been in multiple newspapers, national and local.
All we can do is fight it, we have no option. I doubt it'll go ahead as it's currently planned, it'll get whittled down to be a lot smaller and then given the greenlight so we've got to fight for years yet.
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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I’m afraid it will make no difference 😣
Sadly your right.
We all saw the monster one about Keir a bit back. Laughed it off.

Absolute joke on shore and the turbines are only half the story usually...getting the power away is a bigger job.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
No it hasn't, it's only in the very early stages. A heck of a lot of work has been done already into opposing it, FB group, Demos, website with a lot of content, various blogs. It's been in multiple newspapers, national and local.
All we can do is fight it, we have no option. I doubt it'll go ahead as it's currently planned, it'll get whittled down to be a lot smaller and then given the greenlight so we've got to fight for years yet.
I'm sad to say that after all the recent bollox spouted, re. offshore/onshore farms it'll be a done deal, no matter how hard it's opposed - even if Smarmer's lot don't make their term :mad: :mad: 🤬 🤬 🤬
 
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LKSF

Pennine Hillbilly
I'm sad to say that after all the recent bollox spouted, re. offshore/onshore farms it'll be a done deal, no matter how hard it's opposed - even if Smarmer's lot don't make their term :mad: :mad: 🤬 🤬 🤬

Behind this post lie 40 pages of time wasting moaning which has gone straight into the Cyberbin. Go back and add up how much of your life you wasted in just this one thread.
Then ask yourself why all you can do now is moan and think of excuses not to spend one minute helping out some fellow human beings.
If this was on your doorstep you'd be taking a totally different view and i'd have no problem adding my signature.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Behind this post lie 40 pages of time wasting moaning which has gone straight into the Cyberbin. Go back and add up how much of your life you wasted in just this one thread.
Then ask yourself why all you can do now is moan and think of excuses not to spend one minute helping out some fellow human beings.
If this was on your doorstep you'd be taking a totally different view and i'd have no problem adding my signature.
by the " recent bollox spouted " I meant what has been coming from government and Reeve/Smarmer in particular about how they are going to push windfarms and be damned - to hell with any of the 'peasantry' who object/have a lot to say .. not our discussions on here.
the bunch of bas&&*ds we currently have 'so say running' the show are utter c***s and will ignore all those who put them there and those who opposed their ascension to power ... their agendas will be bull dozed through no matter what.
Yes I too would be bouncing ... have been 'the opposition' a couple of times on local stuff - to absolutely no avail - sh1t happened in spite of massive opposition and that was all we could do - was a done deal from the start - we just delayed the inevitable 🤬 🤬 🤬
this mob are hell bent on doing WTF they want, regardless of the opinions of those who put them there and those that didn't.
 
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LKSF

Pennine Hillbilly
by the " recent bollox spouted " I meant what has been coming from government and Reeve/Smarmer in particular about how they are going to push windfarms and be damned - to hell with any of the 'peasantry' who object/have a lot to say .. not our discussions on here.
the bunch of bas&&*ds we currently have 'so say running' the show are utter c***s and will ignore all those who put them there and those who opposed their ascension to power ... their agendas will be bull dozed through no matter what.
Yes I too would be bouncing ... have been 'the opposition' a couple of times on local stuff - to absolutely no avail - sh1t happened in spite of massive opposition and that was all we could do - was a done deal from the start - we just delayed the inevitable 🤬 🤬 🤬
this mob are hell bent on doing WTF they want, regardless of the opinions of those who put them there and those that didn't.

You don't have any bollocks, they shrivelled up a long time ago :D
Probably about the time you started worrying about con trails and that signing a petition meant the Bogeyman would visit you in the night :)
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
You don't have any bollocks, they shrivelled up a long time ago :D
Probably about the time you started worrying about con trails and that signing a petition meant the Bogeyman would visit you in the night :)
signed a fair few in the last few years ........ it's the email data collection that bothers me -- and just who will be gathering it all ????
 
Gecko

Gecko

Well-known member
-- and just who will be gathering it all ????
It'd be the government collecting your email address (judging by the page) - and when was the last time "the government" acted in someone's interest other than yours?

And by "the goverment", I don't mean the elected individuals who told you how much better your life would be if you voted for them. I mean the faceless grey suits who are completly unidentifiable.
 
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LKSF

Pennine Hillbilly
it's the email data collection that bothers me -- and just who will be gathering it all ????

It's quite obviously aliens. They'll come for you in the night, they always work by night. Make sure your doors are locked, windows boarded up and that velux tightly closed.
You'll be ok, trust me.
 
Gecko

Gecko

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@LKSF calm down, you are being a dick.

You can not reply to a UKGov petition without agreeing to the T&C.
Some of the terms you agreed to (shortend)

2. The personal data we process​


When you contact us, ..., we may collect, store and use your personal data.
The personal data we collect from people...your name, your email address, your postcode, country , whether you are a British citizen, IP address

4. Sharing your personal data​


We may share or disclose your personal data with:
  • Suppliers and contractors of goods or services ..
  • Other organisations .... For example, the Police, ...
  • Unboxed Consulting

and all of that assumes their servers don't get hacked, laptop left on a train etc.

If you continue reading the conditions, they say they need your email addres to confirm you are a real person, but once they accept that (you are), they keep your email address despite it having served the stated purpose they collected it.
 
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LKSF

Pennine Hillbilly
Sigh ... there it is again.

I'm beginning to reget signing, your petition - just on principle.

I don't know what's going on, it's just all insinuations.
He could have clicked on the link and read what you posted, I can only assume he didn't due to being scared.
If this chap does have mental health issues then I'm sorry, I'll approach with a bit more sympathy.
I guess that's one of the (many) problems with social media, you don't know what people have got going on, you're just thrust into hundreds of random conversations every day, with nothing but specks on a screen.
 
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LKSF

Pennine Hillbilly
Look mate not sure of your plan but if you want to wind folk up your prob best off elsewhere , twitter etc.
I have no plan and I'm not here to wind anyone up.
Just a lack of understanding.
 
Bri963

Bri963

Well-known member
I don't know what's going on, it's just all insinuations.
He could have clicked on the link and read what you posted, I can only assume he didn't due to being scared.
If this chap does have mental health issues then I'm sorry, I'll approach with a bit more sympathy.
I guess that's one of the (many) problems with social media, you don't know what people have got going on, you're just thrust into hundreds of random conversations every day, with nothing but specks on a screen.
Sorry mate, but if you look back at your posts around Christmas, you received nothing but support on here, not least from the Druid. You might want to think about that while you re-read your most recent posts, because frankly there’s too many people in the world doing just this, lashing out at others who are nothing to do with their own problems. You’ve written some interesting, almost inspiring stuff on here, and it makes me a bit sad looking at the last few days’ posts.
 
Vinpetrol

Vinpetrol

Well-known member
Sorry mate, but if you look back at your posts around Christmas, you received nothing but support on here, not least from the Druid. You might want to think about that while you re-read your most recent posts, because frankly there’s too many people in the world doing just this, lashing out at others who are nothing to do with their own problems. You’ve written some interesting, almost inspiring stuff on here, and it makes me a bit sad looking at the last few days’ posts.
Likewise , sad sums it up . I thought LKSF was a nice guy that I’ve engaged with at times . Maybe there’s a reasonable explanation . We all have bad days
 
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LKSF

Pennine Hillbilly
Wind T found.jpg

I suppose if you're in construction you might get excited by this, I can understand that, but I don't. I see further than that, I look at the scenery in the background, the tons of peat dug out, habitat lost, the vast amount of material used to mount something which will be de-commissioned in a few years time.



I generally stay well away from this thread. A lot of it is politics and that is a subject banned from many social groups, the reason being that people tend to get very heated and fall out. I don't know how many of you have seen fists flying from actual politicians, but i've seen a few over the years on TV. One such bloke jailed this week for it.
This whole thread to me is a lot of very miserable hot air, it's just unpleasant, uneducated, biased nonsense which I don't want to be part of.
Nobody ever does anything, they just moan.
and moan
and moan some more.
It's very depressing and pointless.
I wouldn't claim to know much about it, I just know that it's a massive topic and there is a lot more to it than meets the eye when you dig deep into it.

Personally I like to do something which has a point to it, but that's me, i'm a bit weird that way.

I did however feel that it was the place where people would be against these on land windfarms, that it would be a good place to bolster some support. Maybe some pertinent questions would be asked.
Perhaps someone would say that they were actually in favour of them and then tell us why.
No, sadly all it attracted was more negativity and moaning.
That doesn't ever get anything done, nor are they positive traits which anyone would want anything to do with.
So here you have a chance to stop complaining for 3 minutes and do something which could make a difference, yet all we get is excuses. That brings up feelings of sadness, resentment and anger for me.
I see my role in this campaign as spreading the word, that's all. I don't have the patience to persistently counter the usual incorrect reasoning and assumptions people make based on what they read on FB. I know a lot about it, far from everything though, there has been a lot to learn over the past year or so.
Some ignorant, selfish, local FB oaf recently claimed he wasn't going to oppose it because it wasn't in his front garden. It didn't matter that somethings taller than Blackpool tower were going to wreck the countryside near where he lived (and more). As long as he couldn't see it from his window it was ok, that was his reasoning.

You’ve written some interesting, almost inspiring stuff on here,

Yes that's because I try hard to do that. I don't sit here and moan about everything and I have a lot I could moan about.
Would you say that to the posters on this thread?
You've never said that to me, so how would I know. I have no idea.
I do have much more to write in the same vain, we're months even years behind what has been going on here recently.
Maybe instead of almost inspire I could actually inspire ;)
 
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