the Global Warming fiasco -- or how to tax the **** out of us

[Smiffy]

Oh they will lend but you will need 40+% deposit and they will downvalue by the same amount. They do have red lines already, should you have spray foam insulation in the loft for example it wont be mortgageable until you have it removed.

There will be some bargains for the few cash buyers but most are going to be hoovered up by housing associations as they have unlimited access to cheap money and do not need to make a profit which other private companies do not.

After all where are the millions of illegals going to live after all the 4* hotels are full ?

Spray foam insulation is a bit different though. If it causes rot in the roof then the house is uninhabitable and effects the resale value of the house in the event of repossession. Poor energy ratings don't make the house uninhabitable. Just expensive to run.
Its has more similarities to asbestos in a house. And you can still get a mortgage on that.
At the end of the day the banks are run by their own greed so have zero interest in cutting 30% of their mortgage business. And I don't think the government will get involved as it would be very difficult for them to do without hurting their own in the pocket.

Our entire economy relies on house prices. We have nothing else. We don't produce much we don't do much and or exports are minimal.
The government can afford to interfere with everyone in this country and screw small businesses over as we all fall back on housing to prop the economy up. Kind of a case that the government can't everything there own way.

 

[V8Druid]

Earth's inner core may have stopped spinning – but what does that mean?

The inner Earth is a mysterious place, and now scientists may have uncovered a strange new secret. According to a new study, the Earth’s inner core may have recently stopped rotating, relative to the surface, as part of a decades-long cycle.

newatlas.com

interesting read

 

[Bob]

See what the plans are for net zero in your area

Tracking the UK’s journey towards carbon zero

The fully searchable database of climate action plans from every local authority in the UK. What is YOUR council doing to prepare for Net Zero?

data.climateemergency.uk

 

[V8Druid]

sorry about the image quality

 

[Giles]

sorry about the image quality

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Published in any reputable publication?

 

[V8Druid]

Published in any reputable publication?

will have to find it again and check Giles

 

[6feetdown]

Published in any reputable publication?

What do you class as reputable

 

[Bob]

Climate Change: The Facts :: SteynOnline

Climate Change: The Facts :: SteynOnline

www.steynonline.com

A few audio files about climate change

 

[Giles]

What do you class as reputable

Not made in photoshop then posted to Facebook would be a start

 

[Giles]

'Anti-science' climate change denial declaration backed by Ukippers debunked

EXPERTS have debunked a declaration from climate sceptics who have defied scientific consensus by claiming “there is no climate emergency”.

www.thenational.scot

 

[Giles]

Literally 2 mins of research shows it up as false news most the scientist work in the oil and gas industry or have no climate background.

 

[Left hooker]

Would love to know how much that volcano in Russia this week chucked crap up into the atmosphere

 

[6feetdown]

Literally 2 mins of research shows it up as false news most the scientist work in the oil and gas industry or have no climate background.

Problem is all the ones, on the other side are as bad if not worse

 

[Bob]

If you are saying that the science is proven and that's it I suggest you all sell your polluting diggers vans and cars and get yourselves a trad bike and a 1 RB
Why did Tony Blair in the beginning of this century say only research showing it man made gets funded .was because he wanted it that way or there is a lot of money in it for him and his mates .I have not seen any of the people who keep on about global warming stop using there private jets, all I have seen is more green taxes for me.
I like most people on here remember the covid with the science is proven any scientists who says anything different is a lair .That seems to slowly falling apart

 

[JD450A]

Personally I am of the belief that quite a lot of the science is horse hockey based more on opinions and belief than fact.... And that is occurring on both sides of the arguments.

 

[Giles]

What I really struggle with you tin hat crack pipe smokers is…

You’ll listen to Jeff sat alone hating the world tweeting anything he can get hold of or make up to get attention And interaction ergo feeling of importance or worse monetisation.

Jeff doesn’t fact check, Jeff exists in an echo chamber and jeff’s sole aim is to denegrate the people or organisations who oppose him to give his own opinion more weight.

We have laws about professional standards in journalism the disinformation types don’t. they are accountable to no one,

Do you believe an organisation like the bbc which employs what 50,000 people of every background is like let’s deceive all these ppl? For what end?

Acting main stream media’s aim is only to make their own opinions seem more valid and remove the truth check. Post truth, no matter how many facts are presented by qualified scientists people still believe their opinion is equally valid as someone else’s facts.

It’s like mr Chinese digger guy insisting his machines are better than say Takeuchi, then attacking earthmovers for an unfavourable review. Then publishing article style propaganda through agency that exists with false users to crest enough online noise for itv to start being valid thought. Give it 2 years and $10m you could have that opinion widely spread on the net.


You lot think you’re truth seekers making your own opinions but you’re sheep being herded by a strange bed fellows of individuals crave the attention and the fight, big business with money in the game and foreign government actors stirring the pot for sh1ts and giggles.

Back to the article the list of 1200 is a laugh to read

It consultants, doctors, civil engineers business owners, neighbours dog

 

[Giles]

Problem is all the ones, on the other side are as bad if not worse

Any evidence?

 

[Giles]

When you watch the likes of sir david Attenborough showing the effects of climate change melting glaciers, lack of pack ice, change in animal behaviour etc

Do you just shrug and say to yourself that’s lies I don’t believe it?

 

[Grahams]

What I really struggle with you tin hat crack pipe smokers is…

You’ll listen to Jeff sat alone hating the world tweeting anything he can get hold of or make up to get attention And interaction ergo feeling of importance or worse monetisation.

Jeff doesn’t fact check, Jeff exists in an echo chamber and jeff’s sole aim is to denegrate the people or organisations who oppose him to give his own opinion more weight.

We have laws about professional standards in journalism the disinformation types don’t. they are accountable to no one,

Do you believe an organisation like the bbc which employs what 50,000 people of every background is like let’s deceive all these ppl? For what end?

Acting main stream media’s aim is only to make their own opinions seem more valid and remove the truth check. Post truth, no matter how many facts are presented by qualified scientists people still believe their opinion is equally valid as someone else’s facts.

It’s like mr Chinese digger guy insisting his machines are better than say Takeuchi, then attacking earthmovers for an unfavourable review. Then publishing article style propaganda through agency that exists with false users to crest enough online noise for itv to start being valid thought. Give it 2 years and $10m you could have that opinion widely spread on the net.


You lot think you’re truth seekers making your own opinions but you’re sheep being herded by a strange bed fellows of individuals crave the attention and the fight, big business with money in the game and foreign government actors stirring the pot for sh1ts and giggles.

Back to the article the list of 1200 is a laugh to read

It consultants, doctors, civil engineers business owners, neighbours dog

I think that if you start by insulting people you don't agree with you stand very little chance of then convincing them that their thoughts are wrong.
As you say individuals opinions spread on the internet need to be taken with a pinch of salt. There are a lot of people out there who no longer know what to believe as people who should be telling the "truth" manipulate stories to give their spin. I'm sure it has always happened, but pre internet it was not obvious.
You point about the BBC not setting out to deliberately deceive, all media organisations have a house style and suffer from group think. Having worked for big organisations in the past you can only get promotion if you think and act like the existing leadership, so it reinforces that view. The BBC was founded in the time of paternernalism - Nanny knows best and still seems to reflect that.

 

[Lancs Lad]

When you watch the likes of sir david Attenborough showing the effects of climate change melting glaciers, lack of pack ice, change in animal behaviour etc

Do you just shrug and say to yourself that’s lies I don’t believe it?

Attenborough ain't lies he's documenting how the earth's changing in the time we've documented it...but to think us mere mortals can honestly stop this incredibly organised setup change is a pipe dream... to watch it and then get anxiety because I'm not driving an electric car or wiping my bum with hemp shows a lack of faith in something...I'll let you decide

I do also believe we should do our bit to not pollute...common sense stuff...that doesn't even need spelling out....

My two pennyworth.