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6feetdown
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Yep she'll be on another gravy train UN or similar
Lancs Lad
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Best news all week that
Bob
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Again a rumour she is on her way to BlackRock WEF hedge fund
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
someone should chuck a gallon of thinners on her and make a proper bonfire of the job then
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
oh .... and take that tw*t Trudeau with her
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
interesting vid .. confirming cyclic weather patterns yet again
Bob
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Temperatures in Northern Hemisphere Due to Fall Over Next 25 Years, According to Six Top International Scientists – The Daily Sceptic
According to a new paper in a peer-reviewed journal by six top scientists, the Northern hemisphere may be about to enter a period of cooling that will last until the 2050s. Unfortunately, Al Gore hasn’t read it.
dailysceptic.org
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fred
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actually they will work fine but the heatloss calcs must be viable before work commences. I'm in process of extending and insulating an 120 year old solid wall house which will be having a heat pump. It has to be taken back to brick, all the floors broken up and windows chopped out, reveals insulated etc. None of this is remotely possible if its habited during the works and its probably only another 20% to knock it down and start again. Obviously our amazing planning system would make this hard.
After insulating and making air tight it will be peanuts to heat. £1 of electric buys £3 of heat at a minimum, the latest heatpumps are closer to £5.
It's a step change for the building industry, no more RSJ lintels, no more 7n conc blocks below damp, massive attention to detail for preventing cold bridges, air leaks. All totally impracticable of course as these isn't a training course you can go on that teaches it all.
So for legoland builds they will be built same as always with minor tweaks and then heat pumps forced to run hard to make up for poor quality of workmanship and people will moan about the costs of running them.
On the plus side you will get lots of free condensation/black mould on every cold bridge to enjoy. Air tight houses cant dry out without mechanical intervention.
It's all cart before the horse.
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
As you say, I can't see many builders doing it properly in the near future. Where are the skills to come from? Given how shoddy a lot of new builds are with existing skills it seems too much to ask. Personally I think I would prefer a factory built house like some of the German houses you see. Once the robot is dialed in or even jigs set up for manual work each house should be near perfect which is a lot more than can be said for most site built stuff.
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6feetdown
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Ah yes if you can do what your doing great but for the average person probably can't afford to do that
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Smiffy
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Also you start to loose a fair bit of room space on the average house.
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fred
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Just over a third of housing stock is classed as needing major upgrading. What is going to happen is the banks will not lend or led on very adverse terms to buildings with an EPC of C or below. This way the market takes care of the problem and the gov doesn't have to do anything.
It's already happening with buy to let, you cannot legally let out of property of below E, this raises to C from 2028.
IT will mean some folks will be in negative equity owning an old house as the market price will be wrote down 30/40% to cover the costs of getting it to EPC A or B.
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Smiffy
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I honestly don't think it will happen that easily. Banks are to greedy. There is no incentive for them not to lend the money. After all they will give mortgages on houses on flood planes. If they suddenly stop financing a 3rd of the housing market. That's going to be their profit on mortgages hit by 1/3. Also people will be in negative equity so will stop selling houses so supply will slow down and be outstripped by demand and prices go back up again.
Like it or not our whole economy is based on house prices. And far to many (very greedy) people in charge that have there fingers in the pies.
The only thing that could happen is house prices stagnate. And possibly only well insulated houses increase significantly, making them a better investment.
Either that or government grants or even compulsory purchase is used to upgrade the houses. The town I live in is about 50%ex council terraces. It would be incredibly difficult to upgrade a single house. And to expect 10 houses to be organized enough to upgrade or even afford to upgrade simultaneously is impossible.
Bob
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I got asked a few weeks ago to advise a housing association tenant about mould on her kitchen ceiling as she had cleaned it with bleach but it keeps coming back, so put temp prob on ceiling it was a cold day outside at 2 degrees centigrade when I checked ceiling along outside wall and it read 2 degrees and when I moved it over ceiling you could noticed every where the fibreglass was not laid probably .When I looked at gov website it had a EPC rating of C I phoned up association and got a auto message if you have mould problems don't ring us look on our website and see what you can do about it . I ignored that and held on and when I got the receptionist I told her the problem and she knew I had the figures she put on to the manager who arranged a visit since then they have repaired trap door put in a new extractor fitted new radiators in all rooms but still haven't done the fibreglass on lagged the water pipes in the roof. But how did they get a C EPC rating, glass in windows and doors were far from the best built in 1970s no insulation in floor not much in walls and an old gas boiler
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6feetdown
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As mentioned if you can't afford it you'll end up being fined for non compliance then have an offer from the government to take it off your hands and do the repairs, then rent it back to you.
You'll own nothing and be happy
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Smiffy
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As mentioned if you can't afford it you'll end up being fined for non compliance then have an offer from the government to take it off your hands and do the repairs, then rent it back to you.
You'll own nothing and be happy
I think that will be a long way off. Far to many people high in the food chain have way to much invested in property. And I very much doubt they want to spend any money they don't have to.
JD450A
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Personally watching how this is playing out and what has been said I think you will find urban centers will become dystopian hell holes.
Those willing to have a life that's a mild struggle (think late Victorian times) with freedoms but ultimately less healthcare or flash nonsense will get ignored in the countryside.
Just my take. Lot of effort to force everyone to comply, easier just to make option 2 undesirable to a majority of the population.
Those willing to have a life that's a mild struggle (think late Victorian times) with freedoms but ultimately less healthcare or flash nonsense will get ignored in the countryside.
Just my take. Lot of effort to force everyone to comply, easier just to make option 2 undesirable to a majority of the population.
Lancs Lad
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Actually not a million miles away from that now....think back to lockdowns ...didn't take folk long to figure out who had the better life those out in the sticks with no CCTV monitoring and Mrs Jones the curtain twitcher watching their every move....prices outside towns have rocketed and from what I'm hearing not dropped either round here .
Apart from the bling discovery sport mob it's educated work from homers escaping....
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fred
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Oh they will lend but you will need 40+% deposit and they will downvalue by the same amount. They do have red lines already, should you have spray foam insulation in the loft for example it wont be mortgageable until you have it removed.
There will be some bargains for the few cash buyers but most are going to be hoovered up by housing associations as they have unlimited access to cheap money and do not need to make a profit which other private companies do not.
After all where are the millions of illegals going to live after all the 4* hotels are full ?
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