Struggling to Hire and Train New Technicians – Need Advice

[Smiffy]

Paying a premium doesn't guarantee getting good people either, subbed to a company a couple of years ago who's majority of lads were lastly and effing useless. Just piss heads and what ever else, wages on a Friday, mostly gone by Monday

One of them took the piss constantly, always quoting they can't get rid of me as they can't get any lads, he eventually got fired on another job, along with his mate who just joined a couple of weeks before, as they weren't turning up on site till gone 10, hungover and doing nothing

Sometimes I think, it would be nice to have a few lads but the reality is most are not worth the hassle. It's bad enough getting labourers let alone any one decent

That's why you can earn decent money being employed. Lots of medium size companies do notice who does what.

 

[Russell]

I'll believe it when I see it. The the max you will get over here if your not someone's brothers mother Is £15 per hour, and that will probably be self employed but employed. I went for a job interview , a stones throw from Doobin in millionaire country , for a ground source heat pump and well driller firm so must be turning over millions.
They were paying 15 per hour but they'll do you a favor and give you an introductory period to see if you like the job, for which they will pay you £12
. 50 a hour.

 

[bobthebuilder]

I'll believe it when I see it. The the max you will get over here if your not someone's brothers mother Is £15 per hour, and that will probably be self employed but employed. I went for a job interview , a stones throw from Doobin in millionaire country , for a ground source heat pump and well driller firm so must be turning over millions.
They were paying 15 per hour but they'll do you a favor and give you an introductory period to see if you like the job, for which they will pay you £12
. 50 a hour.

wont be allowed to do that on july 5th

 

[Smiffy]

I'll believe it when Ib see it. The tNhe max you will get over here if your not someone's brothers mother Is £15 per hour, and that will probably be self employed but employed. I went for a job interview , a stones throw from Doobin in millionaire country , for a ground source heat pump and well driller firm so must be turning over millions.
They were paying 15 per hour but they'll do you a favor and give you an introductory period to see if you like the job, for which they will pay you £12
. 50 a hour.

Everyone's experiences are different and it might not be offered as you walk off the street but it's definitely common enough. And it would be the leaders, although the teams are usually only 2-3people.
And definitely expected to earn you money.

 

[6feetdown]

I'll believe it when I see it. The the max you will get over here if your not someone's brothers mother Is £15 per hour, and that will probably be self employed but employed. I went for a job interview , a stones throw from Doobin in millionaire country , for a ground source heat pump and well driller firm so must be turning over millions.
They were paying 15 per hour but they'll do you a favor and give you an introductory period to see if you like the job, for which they will pay you £12
. 50 a hour.

£15 an hr probably costs employer around £20 an hr

 

[doobin]

wont be allowed to do that on july 5th

How do you mean?

 

[Quattromike]

£15 an hr probably costs employer around £20 an hr

Depends on what they offer, could be alot more. By time you factor in holiday pay, mental health days, clothing, boots, overalls, PPE , van, pension contributions, NI, training, HR ... The list can go on.
Sometimes think be better if some don't show up

 

[Stroppymonkey]

£15 an hr probably costs employer around £20 an hr

And the rest . On our model (admin heavy) charging out to cust has to be over 100% on hourly rate otherwise we run in red . (Travel/breaks/sickness/holiday etc etc )

 

[TiltyShaun]

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Probably built it as well!!

 

[DaveDCB]

This thread gives me a headache just reading it…..
Everyone I have is self employed, if they do a good job they get more work, if they don’t we part ways…. Works for me.
I go on holiday knowing I don’t have 5 blokes sat in a cabin somewhere swapping pics of their other half’s rather than doing any work because I’m not in the country!

 

[Stroppymonkey]

This thread gives me a headache just reading it…..
Everyone I have is self employed, if they do a good job they get more work, if they don’t we part ways…. Works for me.
I go on holiday knowing I don’t have 5 blokes sat in a cabin somewhere swapping pics of their other half’s rather than doing any work because I’m not in the country!

I can’t work with that model. We book up service slots 4 times a day for months ahead. Subbys wouldn’t be reliable to that level of detail.

 

[DaveDCB]

I can’t work with that model. We book up service slots 4 times a day for months ahead. Subbys wouldn’t be reliable to that level of detail.

My work differs vastly, we are all out on one job for 12+ months and then can be 6-9 months before I need anyone else on the next job , luckily I have a multi trade father in law and wife who can drive anything so works well.

 

[Stroppymonkey]

My work differs vastly, we are all out on one job for 12+ months and then can be 6-9 months before I need anyone else on the next job , luckily I have a multi trade father in law and wife who can drive anything so works well.

Horses for courses as they say. Your holidays sound more relaxing than mine

 

[DaveDCB]

Horses for courses as they say. Your holidays sound more relaxing than mine

First new holidays my Mrs took my phone and locked it in the safe…! Then wondered why I wasn’t at work the next week after

 

[bobthebuilder]

How do you mean?

the employment laws will change on day 1 of a labour goverment ,
lass i am working for is one of the employment lawyers for apple ,
was at a conference last week on the new laws labour will enact on day 1 ,full rights for all employees from day 1 ,no trial periods

 

[Stroppymonkey]

the employment laws will change on day 1 of a labour goverment ,
lass i am working for is one of the employment lawyers for apple ,
was at a conference last week on the new laws labour will enact on day 1 ,full rights for all employees from day 1 ,no trial periods

I call bullshit on this one. Let’s come back to this conversation next Friday !

 

[bobthebuilder]

I call bullshit on this one. Let’s come back to this conversation next Friday !

well she has no cause to lie ,and she is an incredibly clever lass .

 

[Stroppymonkey]

well she has no cause to lie ,and she is an incredibly clever lass .

Chat next Friday .

 

[bobthebuilder]

I call bullshit on this one. Let’s come back to this conversation next Friday !

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[DaveDCB]

I call bullshit on this one. Let’s come back to this conversation next Friday !

Don’t know why it surprises you? Employment law has been swinging in favour toward the employee more and more over the years..