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Monkeybusiness
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I only insulated the roof to prevent condensation - it still gets a bit after a really cold spell but nothing that bothers me.
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Stroppymonkey
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That is sounding better. When was this may I ask? £53 per m2 less the cost of new concrete big 6 sounds more doable. More like £10K for mine. Cant imagine installation much difference in cost between the 2 on a new shed? Based on that I could make it happen.
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Stroppymonkey
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Ultimately I would like a climate controlled building. My rented shed was insulated with 100mm itchycoo back in about 1968 but its not upto much now, but still the airgap is a lot better than nothing.
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DaveDCB
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January this year.
Yeah i think the high instal price was them not wanting to bother doing it
Bob
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Have anyone used super foil insulation ,a few years ago we use to fix it under roof joists and that use to cover regs at the time was very quick to fit it came in rolls but was bloody expenseive .Then we were stopped using super foil do to concerns about sealing joints but then it was allowed , but I never fitted it again ,I stil get emails abou tit
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Lancs Lad
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Yep Used something like my extension.Have anyone used super foil insulation ,a few years ago we use to fix it under roof joists and that use to cover regs at the time was very quick to fit it came in rolls but was bloody expenseive .Then we were stopped using super foil do to concerns about sealing joints but then it was allowed , but I never fitted it again ,I stil get emails abou tit
A Guide to Multifoil Insulation (16 SuperFOIL Products And Their Uses)
SuperFOIL in the UK offer a range of multifoil insulation products to the construction, residential housing development, self builder and DIY and Home Extension markets respectively. In our blog today we look at what insulation is and how it works and then examine the full range of 16 SuperFOIL...
Can't remember exact spec but sure it saved us like 75mm of kingspan
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6feetdown
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Extension we worked on he had it on the roof and walls big u value savingHave anyone used super foil insulation ,a few years ago we use to fix it under roof joists and that use to cover regs at the time was very quick to fit it came in rolls but was bloody expenseive .Then we were stopped using super foil do to concerns about sealing joints but then it was allowed , but I never fitted it again ,I stil get emails abou tit
A Guide to Multifoil Insulation (16 SuperFOIL Products And Their Uses)
SuperFOIL in the UK offer a range of multifoil insulation products to the construction, residential housing development, self builder and DIY and Home Extension markets respectively. In our blog today we look at what insulation is and how it works and then examine the full range of 16 SuperFOIL...
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
is that foil backed bubble wrap ?
Lancs Lad
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More like space blanket ..umpteen layers
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DaveDCB
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I used this cheaper stuff on the underside of my workshop, does a great of stopping condensation..
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Stroppymonkey
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I'm gradually getting closer to this happening. Local (but highly recommended) fabricators are dragging their feet a bit. Sat down and discussed specs in Nov 23. Got some prices sent in April 24. Roughly speaking to do both roofs and the small vert section between with 80mm insulated ADDS about £15K + vat to the job.
Big end is going to be workshop, little end is going to be purely ag fodder storage but might make a lovely little Class Q in 2035 for personal use. Seems daft to spend £6-7K ish upgrading a farm shed roof at this stage, but might be very glad of it in 10ish years time. Also keeps it all matching. General consensus is that insulated workshop is a no brainer. I'd love to do the walls as well but just haven't got the budget so will need to insulate internally in the future.
I wanted timber cladding but seems to work out at about £2k more than 0.5mm tin (for whole thing). Still not decided about that. Weathered timber will blend in and look a lot nicer in a woodland setting. Also quieter inside and less sweaty.
Overall its looking like £62K for materials Inc post hole concrete
Concrete floor will have to come later. No idea what erection costs will be, still waiting for that price!
Big end is going to be workshop, little end is going to be purely ag fodder storage but might make a lovely little Class Q in 2035 for personal use. Seems daft to spend £6-7K ish upgrading a farm shed roof at this stage, but might be very glad of it in 10ish years time. Also keeps it all matching. General consensus is that insulated workshop is a no brainer. I'd love to do the walls as well but just haven't got the budget so will need to insulate internally in the future.
I wanted timber cladding but seems to work out at about £2k more than 0.5mm tin (for whole thing). Still not decided about that. Weathered timber will blend in and look a lot nicer in a woodland setting. Also quieter inside and less sweaty.
Overall its looking like £62K for materials Inc post hole concrete
Concrete floor will have to come later. No idea what erection costs will be, still waiting for that price!
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DaveDCB
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Erection was 4K for mine(2900sqft) 5yrs ago - could double that now!
I’ve No issue with tin sheet sides, what did you get planning for?
Timber sides carry a fire risk and comes up in insurance questions.
I do want to put timber sides on one at home but also insulate it, not quite sure how to go about it yet , but seems it will be double block wall with insulation between.. but pretty sure that’s going to cost more than insulated sheets!
I’ve No issue with tin sheet sides, what did you get planning for?
Timber sides carry a fire risk and comes up in insurance questions.
I do want to put timber sides on one at home but also insulate it, not quite sure how to go about it yet , but seems it will be double block wall with insulation between.. but pretty sure that’s going to cost more than insulated sheets!
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Stroppymonkey
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The drawing is for timber, but it's under PD on a 28 notice so not full planning and no one cares in these scenarios. 30mm PIR for the walls of the big end/workshop adds about £3K. That not much insulation but gives a nice finish and means I could use steel purlins inside rather than timbers. Might have to sell that Kubota dumper to @Giles to free up some ££ at this rate.
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Giles
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They’re easy enough to put up built a few of them now,
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Vinpetrol
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I’m looking for an 8x12m insulated steel building just now. I’m after a roller shutter door in each gable and 3.3 minimum opening height . Prices coming in around 30k anyone else bought one from a supplier they’d recommend ?
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
what sort of eaves height Vin -- won't get a duck in a 3.3m opening height
or much else for that matter ..... "insulated" is where a lot of the cost'll be .... no barn builders/steel frame-ers 'round you?
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DaveDCB
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Going to give these a try
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Lancs Lad
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Our local bunch.Going to give these a try
Wareing Buildings - Supply, design and build of steel framed buildings
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Only hear good things about em. Been around for ever . Old school outfit
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DaveDCB
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Nothing old skool about the kit they use though! Propper investment!Our local bunch.
Only hear good things about em. Been around for ever . Old school outfit
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Monkeybusiness
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When checking prices make sure are definitely comparing ‘apples with apples’.
I had prices from a few manufacturers for the exact same spec building - it was interesting to see the range of prices, and the different steel profile sizes they all suggested for the ‘same’ end product. I insisted upon all-steel, yet some still included timber wall plates etc.
We have a load of manufacturers based near here - Brad Rushton (who I had mine off and was/am delighted with), Graham Heath, AC Jackson, Steelforce and Fowler and Guilbert. All of them have good reputations in the area.
I had prices from a few manufacturers for the exact same spec building - it was interesting to see the range of prices, and the different steel profile sizes they all suggested for the ‘same’ end product. I insisted upon all-steel, yet some still included timber wall plates etc.
We have a load of manufacturers based near here - Brad Rushton (who I had mine off and was/am delighted with), Graham Heath, AC Jackson, Steelforce and Fowler and Guilbert. All of them have good reputations in the area.
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