Sad

[Smiffy]

Afew examples…
Neighbours of ours got up on feed wagon to cut wrap of round bale, slipped and ended up inside feeder wagon cut up as feed!

Other lad id employed to empty slurry store at our farm, found a photo on his Facebook that evening of tractor tootling down the field with slurry tanker going.. him not in the cab but stood in the field taking a photo of it!! Safe to say he never got offered any more work!!

Mate moved a trailer in his yard but didn’t bother pulling the hitch up to latch trailer on,. Trailer came off and smashed into side of his backhoe taking wheel /track rod out etc!

I could go on…. We all do stupid stuff but it’s just more common on farms and mostly fatal I’m afraid!

I'm not innocent I must admit. When in new Zealand, I was told multiple times how many fatalities they have from the inline wrappers each year, and to switch the engine off before working on it. A piece of wrap knotted round a sensor and stopped it so I wriggled underneath to pull the wrap loose, without turning the engine off. As I cleared the sensor it trigged the machine start up. I got absolutely battered by wrap carriers and managed to wriggle sideways just quick enough to not get run over. The wrap carriers where mounted at an angle so the front of the carrier has maybe 10in clearance to the ground, this is where I was. The back of the carrier has 6in clearance, if I had ended up under the back of the carrier I would not have have come back out.

Although construction now has taken it far to far that people have stopped thinking for themselves.

 

[JD450A]

round a sensor

That's another factor, autonomous/sensor operated equipment.

Construction tends to have sensors to stop equipment.... Both agriculture and waste have sensors to start machines when a load is fed in.... Particularly balers in waste.

There have been plenty of fatalitys due to this..... Operative enters baler chamber without LOTO or shutting down, stands up, trips the sensor and the baler springs to life crushing them to death.

 

[V8Druid]

Afew examples…
Neighbours of ours got up on feed wagon to cut wrap of round bale, slipped and ended up inside feeder wagon cut up as feed!

Other lad id employed to empty slurry store at our farm, found a photo on his Facebook that evening of tractor tootling down the field with slurry tanker going.. him not in the cab but stood in the field taking a photo of it!! Safe to say he never got offered any more work!!

Mate moved a trailer in his yard but didn’t bother pulling the hitch up to latch trailer on,. Trailer came off and smashed into side of his backhoe taking wheel /track rod out etc!

I could go on…. We all do stupid stuff but it’s just more common on farms and mostly fatal I’m afraid!

Many years ago friend's brother opened the door to a feed bin, climbed in and kicked the last of the feed sat on the floor inside, into the screw auger, feeding it out the bin to the pig sheds ... auger took his foot .. and then the rest of him, slowly ... must've been a horrific end and so needless

 

[doobin]

Small fry I know, but s**t like this annoys me.

Just put it in a pickup truck ffs, it would be
quicker and probably cheaper on the diesel. I know it’s only back roads and very little actual risk, I think it’s the ‘farmer mentality’ that bothers me.

 

[Furniss]

Small fry I know, but s**t like this annoys me.

Just put it in a pickup truck ffs, it would be
quicker and probably cheaper on the diesel. I know it’s only back roads and very little actual risk, I think it’s the ‘farmer mentality’ that bothers me.View attachment 82652

its only because your not a farmer though and sleep deprived

 

[JD450A]

That trailer definitely has a Tilly pass

 

[Smiffy]

Small fry I know, but s**t like this annoys me.

Just put it in a pickup truck ffs, it would be
quicker and probably cheaper on the diesel. I know it’s only back roads and very little actual risk, I think it’s the ‘farmer mentality’ that bothers me.View attachment 82652

I think the most stupid thing is the lack of trying and they will complain when they get legislated. That trailer is well over due a meeting with a gas torch. A clean painted trailer with lights and a tailgate would attract half as much attention

 

[pettsy]

No care given about trying to be legal. A light board is £20 and a ratchet strap even less. If you can’t be bothered to do the basics then you shouldn’t be on the the road with any vehicle.

 

[DaveDCB]

That trailer definitely has a Tilly pass

You’re not looking hard enough.. sticker is on the tailgate … which fell off 3 miles earlier

 

[Lancs Lad]

Crazy thing is thats a say £75k tractor dragging a pile of s**t. Never makes sense to me
See it all time round here .
150k fastrac with a 40 year old pile of crap low loader...or bale trailer.

 

[JD450A]

So in all honesty I have zero issues with said pile of crap trailer..... And it comes down to the use.

If it was loaded to the bollox with soil, or had a stack of straw on it then yes, entirely wrong.

As it stands you can see the rear lights, numberplate and it's obviously not being dragged along an A road at 60mph...... The only iffy thing is the mesh in the back but in all honesty no difference to putting a wheelbarrow loose in a transit.

It's all relative.... And in all honesty safety than most boat trailers.

 

[DaveDCB]

my mate is facing 18 points for literally the same offences.. I have no sympathy

 

[V8Druid]

So in all honesty I have zero issues with said pile of crap trailer..... And it comes down to the use.

If it was loaded to the bollox with soil, or had a stack of straw on it then yes, entirely wrong.

As it stands you can see the rear lights, numberplate and it's obviously not being dragged along an A road at 60mph...... The only iffy thing is the mesh in the back but in all honesty no difference to putting a wheelbarrow loose in a transit.

It's all relative.... And in all honesty safety than most boat trailers.

in order for the rear lights bit to apply, it MUST NOT have lights fitted to the trailer - if fitted they must work (C&U regs) and no excuses for zero number plate
a wheel barrow in the back of a tranny tipper would need to be netted now as taller than the sides (yeh I know!! )
that is an insecure load - end of
the side board also poses risks to pedestrians - extends beyond the trailer's width and in all probability exhibits sharp edges

we won't even mention the out of date racing slicks

 

[hiluxman]

in order for the rear lights bit to apply, it MUST NOT have lights fitted to the trailer - if fitted they must work (C&U regs) and no excuses for zero number plate
a wheel barrow in the back of a tranny tipper would need to be netted now as taller than the sides (yeh I know!! )
that is an insecure load - end of
the side board also poses risks to pedestrians - extends beyond the trailer's width and in all probability exhibits sharp edges

we won't even mention the out of date racing slicks

Can you be done for bald tyres? So long as they are free from severe damage your good to go.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Devil’s advocate here - what actual hazard does the pictured setup pose to anybody? How can the mesh fall out? How is the rusty old trailer with some/no lights going to cause an issue? What would happen if the old perished bald tyres failed?

 

[V8Druid]

Devil’s advocate here - what actual hazard does the pictured setup pose to anybody? How can the mesh fall out? How is the rusty old trailer with some/no lights going to cause an issue? What would happen if the old perished bald tyres failed?

how many sets of rules would you like to see in place then Dan?

 

[Monkeybusiness]

how many sets of rules would you like to see in place then Dan?

Certainly fewer than we currently have Graham!
In my opinion there is no reason for a farmer to have to spend a load of money buying a new trailer or otherwise getting new tyres/lights etc fitted to something that might get dragged out of the hedge to do 2 miles down a country lane once every 10 years. That tractor is well on top of the job - it would drag that load to the moon and back with no wheels/tyres! If a motorist couldn’t anticipate what that setup is doing at 20 (or maybe 30) mph then they probably shouldn’t be on the road themselves.

 

[hiluxman]

how many sets of rules would you like to see in place then Dan?

Still can't be done for bald tyres you can't pull them on tyres from an Internet photo.

 

[V8Druid]

Still can't be done for bald tyres you can't pull them on tyres from an Internet photo.

so you seriously think those ribbed tyres still have ribs in place?

 

[JD450A]

I'll just leave this here.....