Lancs Lad
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Agree...all the lost tax from leccy cars gotta come from somewhere...this is the beginning of the end of rebated fuel full stop and this is just the first step.
Agree...all the lost tax from leccy cars gotta come from somewhere...this is the beginning of the end of rebated fuel full stop and this is just the first step.
just wait 'til leccy is 50p/kwhAgree...all the lost tax from leccy cars gotta come from somewhere...
Hoping by that point diesel will be cheap as chips and we'll all be running gennies which we picked up for nowtjust wait 'til leccy is 50p/kwhan' it'll cost yer a tenner to cook the Sunday roast
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" when I click my fingers you will awake and be back in the room "Hoping by that point diesel will be cheap as chips and we'll all be running gennies which we picked up for nowt![]()
It's the Red talking." when I click my fingers you will awake and be back in the room "![]()
you'm 'sposed to be runnin' yer traccy on it ... not quaffing the bloody stuffIt's the Red talking.
In fairness @Lancs Lad does taste betteryou'm 'sposed to be runnin' yer traccy on it ... not quaffing the bloody stuff![]()
That's my take on it too, how are they going to police it for farmers now? An open invite to use "rebated" fuel.As an example a lot of farms have both red and white tanks. A lot also have 3/4 private cars (2 or 3 kids, wifes car etc) and these are often diesel. How they gonna know which tank they are using if no dye and how the f**k do they know how much fuel a tractor uses. It'd be quite easy to cheat the system as long as not too greedy and if you repeat that across every farm in the country its a lotta fuel duty.
they're going to have to have serious and tangible evidence of any cause for increased consumption Aiden ...That's my take on it too, how are they going to police it for farmers now? An open invite to use "rebated" fuel.
They will basically be clocking tractors to put more hours on them now![]()
rebated fuel is always going to be dye marked .. end of
Giles,s aren't going to have to apply for a rebate ... it'll be bought rebated .. and their consumption scrupulously monitored ... they (HMRC) have well over a decade plus of records to draw on, for every user/buyer in the country, who purchases more than 100 ltrs at a time, courtesy of HMRC RDCO Newcastle and all us 'plebs' who have had to monitor/police it since its inception, who provided them with this info.
HMRC have more power than any authority in the country and can turn up day or night, slap a lock on your gate/door/vehicle, etc. and impound / stop you using/trading/whatever at the drop of a hat .... and you have to fight to prevent it ...... they are a law unto them selves and a force not to be pissed about with
they will have scrupulous records from all the RDCOs on the country's consumption for at least the last decade and a half ..... When the RDCO scheme was set up they took on 1000 staff to admin it ... any and all fluctuations of regular supplies will be jumped onHad long chat with good mate of mine today...runs a decent size outfit here ..
Rumour has it HMRC been looking at records for last couple of years ...they know what a typical say 120 acre farm uses normally...and will be observing very closely the next 12 months.
Talk is its going to very tightly scrutinised and policed...
Like already said it will make the tractor brigades prices jump and at the mpg they do secondhand tipper wagon prices gonna jump.
So there is a possibility the spotlight on red could also make certain other practices harder to get away with .
But ultimate point is the whole things a farce regards environment as stuff still needs to be done and last time I checked there ain't many 13t battery machines knocking about![]()
Can you stop calling them Giles abd just call them farmers or I’m going to start referring to every geriatric as a v8DruidAnd it will be UpTo Giles to prove his innocence rather than hmrc to prove him guilty
Can you stop calling them Giles abd just call them farmers or I’m going to start referring to every geriatric as a v8Druid![]()
boat has sailed on that one @vin ... all sorts have had a go ...... they're hell bent on it happeningDoes anyone know of any petitions regarding the removal of this rebate for construction industry? I feel like we should be being more proactive