Lancs Lad
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Agree...all the lost tax from leccy cars gotta come from somewhere...
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
just wait 'til leccy is 50p/kwh
an' it'll cost yer a tenner to cook the Sunday roast
Lancs Lad
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Hoping by that point diesel will be cheap as chips and we'll all be running gennies which we picked up for nowtjust wait 'til leccy is 50p/kwh
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
rebated fuel is always going to be dye marked .. end of
Giles,s aren't going to have to apply for a rebate ... it'll be bought rebated .. and their consumption scrupulously monitored ... they (HMRC) have well over a decade plus of records to draw on, for every user/buyer in the country, who purchases more than 100 ltrs at a time, courtesy of HMRC RDCO Newcastle and all us 'plebs' who have had to monitor/police it since its inception, who provided them with this info.
HMRC have more power than any authority in the country and can turn up day or night, slap a lock on your gate/door/vehicle, etc. and impound / stop you using/trading/whatever at the drop of a hat .... and you have to fight to prevent it ...... they are a law unto them selves and a force not to be pissed about with
Giles,s aren't going to have to apply for a rebate ... it'll be bought rebated .. and their consumption scrupulously monitored ... they (HMRC) have well over a decade plus of records to draw on, for every user/buyer in the country, who purchases more than 100 ltrs at a time, courtesy of HMRC RDCO Newcastle and all us 'plebs' who have had to monitor/police it since its inception, who provided them with this info.
HMRC have more power than any authority in the country and can turn up day or night, slap a lock on your gate/door/vehicle, etc. and impound / stop you using/trading/whatever at the drop of a hat .... and you have to fight to prevent it ...... they are a law unto them selves and a force not to be pissed about with
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
" when I click my fingers you will awake and be back in the room "Hoping by that point diesel will be cheap as chips and we'll all be running gennies which we picked up for nowt
Lancs Lad
Well-known member
It's the Red talking." when I click my fingers you will awake and be back in the room "
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
you'm 'sposed to be runnin' yer traccy on it ... not quaffing the bloody stuff
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6feetdown
Well-known member
In fairness @Lancs Lad does taste betteryou'm 'sposed to be runnin' yer traccy on it ... not quaffing the bloody stuff
CPS
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That's my take on it too, how are they going to police it for farmers now? An open invite to use "rebated" fuel.
They will basically be clocking tractors to put more hours on them now
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
they're going to have to have serious and tangible evidence of any cause for increased consumption Aiden ...That's my take on it too, how are they going to police it for farmers now? An open invite to use "rebated" fuel.
They will basically be clocking tractors to put more hours on them now
rebated fuel is always going to be dye marked .. end of
Giles,s aren't going to have to apply for a rebate ... it'll be bought rebated .. and their consumption scrupulously monitored ... they (HMRC) have well over a decade plus of records to draw on, for every user/buyer in the country, who purchases more than 100 ltrs at a time, courtesy of HMRC RDCO Newcastle and all us 'plebs' who have had to monitor/police it since its inception, who provided them with this info.
HMRC have more power than any authority in the country and can turn up day or night, slap a lock on your gate/door/vehicle, etc. and impound / stop you using/trading/whatever at the drop of a hat .... and you have to fight to prevent it ...... they are a law unto them selves and a force not to be pissed about with
Lancs Lad
Well-known member
Had long chat with good mate of mine today...runs a decent size outfit here ..
Rumour has it HMRC been looking at records for last couple of years ...they know what a typical say 120 acre farm uses normally...and will be observing very closely the next 12 months.
Talk is its going to very tightly scrutinised and policed...
Like already said it will make the tractor brigades prices jump and at the mpg they do secondhand tipper wagon prices gonna jump.
So there is a possibility the spotlight on red could also make certain other practices harder to get away with .
But ultimate point is the whole things a farce regards environment as stuff still needs to be done and last time I checked there ain't many 13t battery machines knocking about
Rumour has it HMRC been looking at records for last couple of years ...they know what a typical say 120 acre farm uses normally...and will be observing very closely the next 12 months.
Talk is its going to very tightly scrutinised and policed...
Like already said it will make the tractor brigades prices jump and at the mpg they do secondhand tipper wagon prices gonna jump.
So there is a possibility the spotlight on red could also make certain other practices harder to get away with .
But ultimate point is the whole things a farce regards environment as stuff still needs to be done and last time I checked there ain't many 13t battery machines knocking about
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
they will have scrupulous records from all the RDCOs on the country's consumption for at least the last decade and a half ..... When the RDCO scheme was set up they took on 1000 staff to admin it ... any and all fluctuations of regular supplies will be jumped onHad long chat with good mate of mine today...runs a decent size outfit here ..
Rumour has it HMRC been looking at records for last couple of years ...they know what a typical say 120 acre farm uses normally...and will be observing very closely the next 12 months.
Talk is its going to very tightly scrutinised and policed...
Like already said it will make the tractor brigades prices jump and at the mpg they do secondhand tipper wagon prices gonna jump.
So there is a possibility the spotlight on red could also make certain other practices harder to get away with .
But ultimate point is the whole things a farce regards environment as stuff still needs to be done and last time I checked there ain't many 13t battery machines knocking about
Lancs Lad
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Best like ever
Giles
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Can you stop calling them Giles abd just call them farmers or I’m going to start referring to every geriatric as a v8Druid
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Can you stop calling them Giles abd just call them farmers or I’m going to start referring to every geriatric as a v8Druid
as you ask so nicely boyo, consider it done 
Giles
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Get then round I’ll cough on them and give them covid 19 lol
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
" The statement from HMRC added: "You will need to retain evidence to confirm the correct fuel has been put into the fuel tank.
"HMRC will consider what purpose the vehicle or machine was being used for at the time of inspection and whether this was an allowed purpose."
It added that vehicles found running red diesel could be seized. "
www.bbc.co.uk
"HMRC will consider what purpose the vehicle or machine was being used for at the time of inspection and whether this was an allowed purpose."
It added that vehicles found running red diesel could be seized. "
Red diesel loss 'could cost businesses millions'
From April, construction and manufacturing firms will have to switch to pricier so-called white diesel.
www.bbc.co.uk
Vinpetrol
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Does anyone know of any petitions regarding the removal of this rebate for construction industry? I feel like we should be being more proactive
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
boat has sailed on that one @vin ... all sorts have had a go ...... they're hell bent on it happening
the revenue generated for them will make a weekly lottery win, daily, look like pocket change
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