Quickhitch

V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
One plus for a spring hitch with a bit of slack when teamed with a well worn in ditching bucket scraping up crap off grass its a bad to beat combo. We cleared a lot of fields up after floods in 09 did the bulk with 8 ton and used 3.5 tonner with miller spring hitch for the final scrape. Day we left you'd not have known there'd been any gravel/silt there.
agree with that too Gaz .... there are times when the slop is to your advantage ... I've had them sorts of days with jake too ;):giggle: auto tilt ditcher :LOL::LOL:
 
GazCro

GazCro

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Whilst on the quick hitch subject geith wants to be well down the list. Front latch only ever managed to open to 40mm for the pin by a hair. I did often wonder how this would be affected by wear. The answer is now after 2000hrs 36mm.
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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Whilst on the quick hitch subject geith wants to be well down the list. Front latch only ever managed to open to 40mm for the pin by a hair. I did often wonder how this would be affected by wear. The answer is now after 2000hrs 36mm. View attachment 16006
I'm sure that could be 'addressed' with a little tech-ery ..... they do have a hell of a range of pin ctr. pick up though, don't they :giggle:
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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I'm sure that could be 'addressed' with a little tech-ery ..... they do have a hell of a range of pin ctr. pick up though, don't they :giggle:
I’ve got one, not done enough to have any wear yet, but I didn’t like the look of it when I first saw it. Seems my gut feeling was right, bloody shite.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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I'm sure that could be 'addressed' with a little tech-ery ..... they do have a hell of a range of pin ctr. pick up though, don't they :giggle:
You may think that but i have actually took as much meat out of a weld which was fouling the ram as i dare already. At some point I'll take grinder to front latch and take the edge off. Point is you shouldn't have to.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
You may think that but i have actually took as much meat out of a weld which was fouling the ram as i dare already. At some point I'll take grinder to front latch and take the edge off. Point is you shouldn't have to.
totally agree ... can you not extend the actuator a few mil., to give it fuller travel ?
 
GazCro

GazCro

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totally agree ... can you not extend the actuator a few mil., to give it fuller travel ?
I think in their obsession for maximum pin centre range there's no spare on the ram. The ram pulls the rear hook first until it stops in the hitch and then the last bit of travel pulls the front latch. If they had designed it to leave a couple of mm travel in the ram to account for wear it would be fine but they didn't.
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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I think in their obsession for maximum pin centre range there's no spare on the ram. The ram pulls the rear hook first until it stops in the hitch and then the last bit of travel pulls the front latch. If they had designed it to leave a couple of mm travel in the ram to account for wear it would be fine but they didn't.
Can you add some material on to the stops, so the ram pulls the front latch sooner?
 
GazCro

GazCro

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Can you add some material on to the stops, so the ram pulls the front latch sooner?
That's an option as well but the rear latch runs in 2 grooves inside the hitch so will be a bit of tight spot to get welder in and do a neat job. The sad part about it is when you work out the cost of a hitch against the cost of the machine they should be faultless.
 
Shovelhands

Shovelhands

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That's an option as well but the rear latch runs in 2 grooves inside the hitch so will be a bit of tight spot to get welder in and do a neat job. The sad part about it is when you work out the cost of a hitch against the cost of the machine they should be faultless.
Might have to dismantle it to add the stops. Probably only needs a few mm‘s?

At first glance there are very few moving parts to wear at all, but there are also zero grease points, the fact that yours is worn that badly is not very encouraging tbh.

Ive said it before, but if I had the choice I’d buy a miller, properly maintained they are bloody good hitches imo.
 
GazCro

GazCro

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Might have to dismantle it to add the stops. Probably only needs a few mm‘s?

At first glance there are very few moving parts to wear at all, but there are also zero grease points, the fact that yours is worn that badly is not very encouraging tbh.

Ive said it before, but if I had the choice I’d buy a miller, properly maintained they are bloody good hitches imo.
Had a Miller on my old 175 pre twin lock but 11 year old 6500hrs still grabbed a bucket tight as and apart from a couple of hoses never ailed a thing. Tbh the geith is a good design let down by quality standards. I think miller went through a poor patch a few year ago mind but supposed to be ok now.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Might have to dismantle it to add the stops. Probably only needs a few mm‘s?

At first glance there are very few moving parts to wear at all, but there are also zero grease points, the fact that yours is worn that badly is not very encouraging tbh.

Ive said it before, but if I had the choice I’d buy a miller, properly maintained they are bloody good hitches imo.
not been in a Geith so am having to visualise/guess the set up ... but think I can see what you'm up against ... that Hill I have on't VA-r has a separate actuator ram for the secondary lock ... hence my "extend the actuator " sounds like a can of worms with the Geith ... at least the Hill picks the latch out of sight :giggle:
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Had a Miller on my old 175 pre twin lock but 11 year old 6500hrs still grabbed a bucket tight as and apart from a couple of hoses never ailed a thing. Tbh the geith is a good design let down by quality standards. I think miller went through a poor patch a few year ago mind but supposed to be ok now.
didn't their hitch division get bought out and the quality crashed (to the point that they were having total failures)? :cry: ... my Miller on the 'Drema is awesome .. bombproof grip
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
That's an option as well but the rear latch runs in 2 grooves inside the hitch so will be a bit of tight spot to get welder in and do a neat job. The sad part about it is when you work out the cost of a hitch against the cost of the machine they should be faultless.
very true
 
GazCro

GazCro

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didn't their hitch division get bought out and the quality crashed (to the point that they were having total failures)? :cry: ... my Miller on the 'Drema is awesome .. bombproof grip
Geith or miller? Geith were bought by doosan and production moved to India i think and yeah quality dropped off. Not sure about miller but i know they've had big issues. The main problem they all have is the big hire companies and even small scale buyers of machines think they have spent enough on a digger without the extra for a quick hitch so they are all knocking them out as cheap as poss.
 
Flying Torquewrench

Flying Torquewrench

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Waiting for a quote from Harford for the Pro-Lok.

Just received my quote from DigBits for a Semi QH at £410, that is including VAT and delivery.

If the price for the Harford is similar to what DiggerJones has paid for his then I think that it will be an easy decision.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Waiting for a quote from Harford for the Pro-Lok.

Just received my quote from DigBits for a Semi QH at £410, that is including VAT and delivery.

If the price for the Harford is similar to what DiggerJones has paid for his then I think that it will be an easy decision.
sounds a very dear semi that, for the size of it ?? :unsure: ...... as said easy decision, based on Dylan's prices ;)(y)
 
Flying Torquewrench

Flying Torquewrench

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I thought the same Graham. Bucket Warehouse sell a Semi QH for £270 ex delivery. Make delivery another £30 and it is still £110 cheaper. However, what is the difference in quality like?

I have ordered a few buckets and other parts from DigBits before and I have always been satisfied with their product. Never dealt with Bucket Warehouse so not sure how their products are.
 
doobin

doobin

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Bucket Warehouse are s**t- seach on here.

I'd say to hell with any price difference- both guys on here bought ProLock on my recommendation, and I can't praise my two enough. As an engineer by trade you will appreciate the quality and the difference tight buckets make.
 
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