Other machines that do well on owner operator basis.

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bobthebuilder

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Last one I did was EPC C… 100mm kingspan everywhere, triple glazing, 200mm brickwork with cavity! Boiler and aircon are A rated..Wtf more do they want, a bloody wind turbine was an option!! 🤦‍♂️
i agree ,its getting silly ,here in wales ,we now put 120mm in the floor (min)flat ceilings 450mm of rockwool .sloping ceilings 150mm of pir inbetween with 50mm all over ,walls 150mm cavity with 100mm pir in cavity and now the feckers want insulated plasterboard dabbed on inside
 
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DaveDCB

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i agree ,its getting silly ,here in wales ,we now put 120mm in the floor (min)flat ceilings 450mm of rockwool .sloping ceilings 150mm of pir inbetween with 50mm all over ,walls 150mm cavity with 100mm pir in cavity and now the feckers want insulated plasterboard dabbed on inside
That on a new build? Last one I did was a barn conversion on the previous specs before it started to get silly, problem being with barn conversion there isn’t ever much more room to add more insulation, definitely not in the roofs, struggle with 100mm in the rafters and over boarding with 32mm boards due to head height, same with floor digs, digging near 500mm below FFL gets you very close to existing foundation depths and I’ll be buggered if I’m underpinning a barn conversion when they don’t need it from a structural point of view, just to add more insulation!!
 
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6feetdown

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Aren't banks starting to be picky on epcs?
I was told my bank manager that NatWest want to put minimum levels in...if you don't hit C or something then they won't offer a rate..or might be just commercial?
Yep checked earlier on a redemption figure and epc its listed.
Conspiracy theory "you won't be able to sell or rent without complying " it's coming
 
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6feetdown

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That on a new build? Last one I did was a barn conversion on the previous specs before it started to get silly, problem being with barn conversion there isn’t ever much more room to add more insulation, definitely not in the roofs, struggle with 100mm in the rafters and over boarding with 32mm boards due to head height, same with floor digs, digging near 500mm below FFL gets you very close to existing foundation depths and I’ll be buggered if I’m underpinning a barn conversion when they don’t need it from a structural point of view, just to add more insulation!!
It doesn't matter what we think unless people start waking up to the bs you won't get a mortgage loan etc
 
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hiluxman

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That on a new build? Last one I did was a barn conversion on the previous specs before it started to get silly, problem being with barn conversion there isn’t ever much more room to add more insulation, definitely not in the roofs, struggle with 100mm in the rafters and over boarding with 32mm boards due to head height, same with floor digs, digging near 500mm below FFL gets you very close to existing foundation depths and I’ll be buggered if I’m underpinning a barn conversion when they don’t need it from a structural point of view, just to add more insulation!!
About to do this shortly. Lad is pooping himself knowing it'll be close.

Apparently they have told him to lob some gobbo under if it looks dodgy.
 
Bucket on wheels

Bucket on wheels

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Stroppymonkey

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That’s a thing of dreams. You would need some work lined up for it though….at a cool £493K! (Assuming I’m getting my maths correct) Local firm to us mount Fassi Cranes onto tracked dumpers for fitting poles and transformers. Not this much reach though.
 

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Smiffy

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V8Druid

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would you want to invest in any of these without a guaranteed supply of steady work ..... and WTF is going to pay the charges they'll need to go out at ?
 
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Marktree

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Diggers are a given and work well for me what with the variety of sizes and attachments.

I'd like to invest in another completely different machine perhaps with a different skill set/experience base. Got to be towable

I see some do very well with the Avant/multi one setups but fairly confident of my local market that that wouldn't be a good option for me. Wrong kind of terrain/properties. I've never felt the need for one in the jobs I do.

Latest thinking could be Alpine tractor with flail and I'm sure plenty of other attachments as time goes on. Able to work on awkward sites that would interest the ag contractors etc. I'm thinking a few ads in the local parish rags and keep it aside from my main business- simply machine and owner only

Self propelled flail? Possibly even truck and a variety of towing services with different trailers etc. All just ideas really but looking for a way to get into something a little less physical and that I can keep doing as I get older ...
I think it's a good thing to invest in heavy equipment you can use it as it is or rent it further

Superior Equipment
 
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Bob

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money for old rope .... last one we had done got done by a retired copper, who'd cottoned on to it being a POP earner for not a lot of input or effort ... was quite candid about it once he realised who I was (worked with my old man years before) :giggle:

as for the recommendations they come up with in their reports WAFJ :oops::mad::unsure: ..... you'd wanna live a bloody long time to recoup any of the major 'investments' :(:mad:

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I had mine done a few years ago and said a D and if you do certain things you would get it down to C whichI have since done but when they checked it they went to 1986 regulations but I done more than that like under floor insulation but they would not include that .The other week I went on a caparison web site put address in it comeback you are using a lot less energy than your neighbours so went and saw neighbours who said they have got theres down to a B nearly A and there bills are nearly twice mine so I have come to the conclusion if buying a house look at their energy bill not their EPC
 
doobin

doobin

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We will see. It was the cheapest I’ve seen one and I got it for 8.5k plus vat. I have a lot of gutter refits etc coming up at a listed building conversion into flats that I do a lot of maintenance for. Plus some dead ash, awkward hedges and the like. I’ve also work to do on my folks place and mine when I get time. I reckon it will be like the alpine tractor which was similar money and made it back quickly. Will be very handy to leave it set up and do the job at leisure.

It’s the first machine I’ve had where my life is on the line in it though, so I’m keen to get it thoroughly examined and a loler on it! Hours are just shy of 300- apparently it was kept in reserve at a substation much of its life and I’m the third owner. Allseems tight and most of the paint is still on the sprockets but I’ve no experience of these.

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I had the local specialists out today to check it over and give it a 6 month thorough examination. Really knowledgeable and great service from Aerial and Handling Services LTD.

Passed with a clean bill of health. A few little bits I need to tidy up but nothing safety critical. He showed me how to adjust the slew to take a bit of the backlash out. The basket limit switch springs were a little seized so with some oil and a screwdriver she will now lift two people as she should.

He said the backstory I was given about being in a substation looks genuine as it has an earthing setup on it, plus it's the twin boom parallel lift model. Made my day when he said he's never seen one as tight that wasn't new. So we were thinking that the 300 hours were genuine until we popped the cover to read the meter- 249 hours and a sticker saying serviced at 232 hours!

Mega chuffed for £8.5k.
 
Regy53

Regy53

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I had the local specialists out today to check it over and give it a 6 month thorough examination. Really knowledgeable and great service from Aerial and Handling Services LTD.

Passed with a clean bill of health. A few little bits I need to tidy up but nothing safety critical. He showed me how to adjust the slew to take a bit of the backlash out. The basket limit switch springs were a little seized so with some oil and a screwdriver she will now lift two people as she should.

He said the backstory I was given about being in a substation looks genuine as it has an earthing setup on it, plus it's the twin boom parallel lift model. Made my day when he said he's never seen one as tight that wasn't new. So we were thinking that the 300 hours were genuine until we popped the cover to read the meter- 249 hours and a sticker saying serviced at 232 hours!

Mega chuffed for £8.5k.
Have known Ian Harding for years, nice guy
 
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HuntingHicap

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I'd second the above, regularly use Ian and Lorna for cross hiring access kit, really nice company. My fitter often checks with Steve if he has issues with lifts.
 
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Tintan28

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We will see. It was the cheapest I’ve seen one and I got it for 8.5k plus vat. I have a lot of gutter refits etc coming up at a listed building conversion into flats that I do a lot of maintenance for. Plus some dead ash, awkward hedges and the like. I’ve also work to do on my folks place and mine when I get time. I reckon it will be like the alpine tractor which was similar money and made it back quickly. Will be very handy to leave it set up and do the job at leisure.

It’s the first machine I’ve had where my life is on the line in it though, so I’m keen to get it thoroughly examined and a loler on it! Hours are just shy of 300- apparently it was kept in reserve at a substation much of its life and I’m the third owner. Allseems tight and most of the paint is still on the sprockets but I’ve no experience of these.

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I can hire one like this albeit it a bit bigger from a local stove installer for around £200+vat per day or £650+vat per week incl delivery so although I'd be interested in one I can't justify the £15-20K+ investment. At £8.5K+vat I might have been though, but I've never seen them going for anything like that price, especially if it is good condition! Good luck, I hope it serves you well.
 
doobin

doobin

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I can hire one like this albeit it a bit bigger from a local stove installer for around £200+vat per day or £650+vat per week incl delivery so although I'd be interested in one I can't justify the £15-20K+ investment. At £8.5K+vat I might have been though, but I've never seen them going for anything like that price, especially if it is good condition! Good luck, I hope it serves you well.
It's in excellent condition. £200 plus vat per day is what I've told everyone it'll cost them to hire it from me so good to know that's in the ballpark.

I don't think it was undervalued- I let it sit for three weeks on Marketplace at the asking price of £10.5k plus VAT before he accepted my original offer.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
It's in excellent condition. £200 plus vat per day is what I've told everyone it'll cost them to hire it from me so good to know that's in the ballpark.

I don't think it was undervalued- I let it sit for three weeks on Marketplace at the asking price of £10.5k plus VAT before he accepted my original offer.
if you're planning on putting that out on 'self drive' be absolutely 100% certain that your insurances are all in place and in order Doob. You will probably also need to get a MEWP qualification enabling you to instruct any hirer on set up, etc. (and'll almost certainly need a MEWP ticket for your own commercial use) Insurers love to 'walk away', as we all know :mad:
they're worse than cranes to get cover on.
 
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Monkeybusiness

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if you're planning on putting that out on 'self drive' be absolutely 100% certain that your insurances are all in place and in order Doob. You will probably also need to get a MEWP qualification enabling you to instruct any hirer on set up, etc. (and'll almost certainly need a MEWP ticket for your own commercial use) Insurers love to 'walk away', as we all know :mad:
they're worse than cranes to get cover on.
And will you send it out with harnesses etc? It’s a bit of a minefield tbh, I’ve had a few mewps over the years and hired them out occasionally (you become everyone’s best friend once you’ve got one in your arsenal!). Looking back I realise that we were probably sailing a bit close to the wind sending them out without operators (we had them for our own work, hire wasn’t looked for and was a very secondary revenue stream).
They are handy to have though, and like an owned digger you end up using them a lot for jobs that wouldn’t really warrant hiring one for the limited use it requires.
 
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