Nissan Navara 4wd system.

V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
To be fair I would do c + e now whilst it is one test before they split it up again. Then you are covered for all eventualities
and pretty sure it can be done with a drag, rather than full artic and still gets you C+E
 
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Smiffy

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and pretty sure it can be done with a drag, rather than full artic and still gets you C+E

Yes I did mine in a 10t wagon with a drag. The setup was bought for training so minimal rear tail swing on the lorry and a tiny drag. The lorry was the same size as a 7.5t tipper and the trailer was smaller than the biggest Ifor just with air brakes. The coupling was stuck out the back of the lorry and a very short drawbar so You couldn't clip a kerb with the trailer if you cleared it with the lorry.
Auto gearbox although M.A.N so not the best one but better than a 4 over 4 for doing a test in.
I have never driven an arctic. I have sat in a tractor units once. But I have the license for it.
 
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Stroppymonkey

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It’s on my list to do C+E. Haven’t had chance this year, maybe next. Quite fancy doing an odd day driving here and there.
I’m planning on doing it in next couple years . Seems daft not to go full C+E
I’m used to tractors and towing so shouldn’t be to bad, and would do my road driving good to go through an examination process. Nearly 20 years since my B+E and I’ve got a lot of bad habits since then
 
pettsy

pettsy

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Nearly 20 years since my B+E and I’ve got a lot of bad habits since then

Same, allthough the biggest problem for me is I know I’m capable of doing it, but I’m not good when someone is at the side of me with a clipboard. I’d rather do a week alongside someone who would guide you and explain than a few hours where you’re shot down for minor faults!
 
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Smiffy

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I’m planning on doing it in next couple years . Seems daft not to go full C+E
I’m used to tractors and towing so shouldn’t be to bad, and would do my road driving good to go through an examination process. Nearly 20 years since my B+E and I’ve got a lot of bad habits since then

I was a tractor driver in my teens and whilst it helped with anticipation for braking. That's about it. It's a very different driving position being sat at the front right hand corner and really threw me at first.
 
JD450A

JD450A

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C license. C1 is a utter waste of time.

Personal opinion, unless you own a lorry C+E is unessecary. I'm glad I have it but ultimately we only ever towed with the Merc very rarely.... And over 13t towing a car trailer is more hassle than it's worth.
 
groundworker

groundworker

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C license. C1 is a utter waste of time.

Personal opinion, unless you own a lorry C+E is unessecary. I'm glad I have it but ultimately we only ever towed with the Merc very rarely.... And over 13t towing a car trailer is more hassle than it's worth.

I've booked to do my C+E, no plans to drive an artic but the other categories seemed a bit pointless without the +E as you can only tow 750kg.

My thinking was I might want small tipper lorry and tow digger behind it?
 
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Smiffy

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C license. C1 is a utter waste of time.

Personal opinion, unless you own a lorry C+E is unessecary. I'm glad I have it but ultimately we only ever towed with the Merc very rarely.... And over 13t towing a car trailer is more hassle than it's worth.

It's all one course now you may never use it but seeing as you no longer have to do c first then c+e, then you may as well.
And depending on your work a 7.5t tipper or even 12t towing a plant trailer is very efficient setup. Being able to bring materials in with you do the work and muck away out in one day is a very difficult thing to beat in the right circumstances.

It would also future proof as we never know what the government will come up with.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Having towed with a 7.5 ton and long wheel base transit/iveco etc I suggest you try a land cruiser then re assess your comment.

Even part loaded can be a tendency in certain circumstances and road conditions to try jack knife / push back end out under hard breaking/ turning etc

The land cruiser are like towing with a tractor
poor little land cruiser !!!!! :oops::oops:


and for Gavin, et al ..... there's a Landcruiser hiding behind that lot

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Powerfab

Powerfab

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Not sure where to post this, so stuck under Navara 4wd thread.

My Navara is up for MOT on Friday and this afternoon discovered that the LED running light on the nearside headlight is off.
The same LED is the sidelight and it functions fine on the sidelights, so the LED's are good.
Its a 2019 Navara, same model as @Routy56 and is the sealed Zenon light unit.

Anything I can glean from internet, its an unservicable item and a replacement headlight is the only option. I'd be really pissed to have to change the light given its obviously an electronics issue and not the LED's themselves, but running short of options with the MOT looming.
A secondhand light will be circa £300, and I'd still have to get one and fit it before Friday.

Anyone heard of this issue, or know of any options for repair?
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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Not sure where to post this, so stuck under Navara 4wd thread.

My Navara is up for MOT on Friday and this afternoon discovered that the LED running light on the nearside headlight is off.
The same LED is the sidelight and it functions fine on the sidelights, so the LED's are good.
Its a 2019 Navara, same model as @Routy56 and is the sealed Zenon light unit.

Anything I can glean from internet, its an unservicable item and a replacement headlight is the only option. I'd be really pissed to have to change the light given its obviously an electronics issue and not the LED's themselves, but running short of options with the MOT looming.
A secondhand light will be circa £300, and I'd still have to get one and fit it before Friday.

Anyone heard of this issue, or know of any options for repair?
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can bus fault? can it be plugged in and interrogated ... LEDs are obviously not the fault .. supply circuit is, so an alternative may well present the same issue
 
Routy56

Routy56

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Not sure where to post this, so stuck under Navara 4wd thread.

My Navara is up for MOT on Friday and this afternoon discovered that the LED running light on the nearside headlight is off.
The same LED is the sidelight and it functions fine on the sidelights, so the LED's are good.
Its a 2019 Navara, same model as @Routy56 and is the sealed Zenon light unit.

Anything I can glean from internet, its an unservicable item and a replacement headlight is the only option. I'd be really pissed to have to change the light given its obviously an electronics issue and not the LED's themselves, but running short of options with the MOT looming.
A secondhand light will be circa £300, and I'd still have to get one and fit it before Friday.

Anyone heard of this issue, or know of any options for repair?
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Not heard of that problem before. And I'd be interested to know the solution.
If it happened on mine I'd start with diagnostics and go from there :geek:
 
Powerfab

Powerfab

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can bus fault? can it be plugged in and interrogated ... LEDs are obviously not the fault .. supply circuit is, so an alternative may well present the same issue
Yeah, I'm of the same mind Graham.

I've a basic Autel OBDB scanner that tells me that the headlights have a CANBUS controller for headlight levelling etc. No faults are presented on the scan, but doubt it's capable of interrogating in sufficent detail.

I'll get it up to autoelectrician early in the week, but looks like I'm forfeiting MOT appointment at this point. Nothing worse than a failure fault showing up to the tester as they drive it into the test hall. They immediately think you've taken no time to prepare the vehicle and then they're a bit more inquisitive.
 
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Powerfab

Powerfab

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It is, except rust gets to everything eventually.
220k mile motorway chariot. Mechanically running like a swiss watch and full service history. Bodywork's had a few knocks in places, but as clean as a whistle underneath.
I did the underside this summer with Bilt Hamber Dynax and had troble finding any quantity of rust needing cleaning / rust conversion treatment before coating. It was the easiest underseal I've ever done, had it not been for the pressure gun which blew its seals halfway through and coated my arm with 1/2 ltr of wax. :mad:
 
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