Lynch fined £800k for no movement order!

[Big Jordy]

More like it, Rosscommon off rd but a big load

That is legal in Roscommon, Irish rules and regs on tractors is very very in keeping with the way Ireland works.. tractors are allowed on all roads even motorways in the south, and have seen 4 axle low loaders about down there. They can also run 5 axle tipper lorry’s running at 38ton

 

[V8Druid]

That article mentions turnover based fines. They make a mockery of justice as another operator making the same mistake does not face the same fate. Very similar to the biased prison sentence rules that have recently been blocked after an uproar.
I have read that are appealing the fine. Will be interesting to see what comes of it. Lynch are claiming the load was legal but the paperwork was void as they had put another registration number in, hence only clerical error.

but a small fine would hardly be punitive - might even be considered as running costs of taking a risk
don't think the whole story is getting reported accurately TBH.
Craig's link's article mentions a 70t drilling rig .. Why??
are the pix being bandied about of the actual vehicle/load, that the fine relates to or another 'incident'?
but was it a " clerical error " or just taking a chance and swallowing a small fine if caught??

 

[Lancs Lad]

but a small fine would hardly be punitive - might even be considered as running costs of taking a risk
don't think the whole story is getting reported accurately TBH.
Craig's link's article mentions a 70t drilling rig .. Why??
are the pix being bandied about of the actual vehicle/load, that the fine relates to or another 'incident'?
but was it a " clerical error " or just taking a chance and swallowing a small fine if caught??

Afaik ...the original picture that started this chat isn't the one they got done for..
Like I said more to this than meets the eye...

 

[JD450A]

but a small fine would hardly be punitive - might even be considered as running costs of taking a risk
don't think the whole story is getting reported accurately TBH.
Craig's link's article mentions a 70t drilling rig .. Why??
are the pix being bandied about of the actual vehicle/load, that the fine relates to or another 'incident'?
but was it a " clerical error " or just taking a chance and swallowing a small fine if caught??

The photos aren't of the load in question.

The police could and should be making the public aware that they have been stopped multiple times.... I quite fancy putting a freedom of information request in.

 

[Regy53]

but a small fine would hardly be punitive - might even be considered as running costs of taking a risk
don't think the whole story is getting reported accurately TBH.
Craig's link's article mentions a 70t drilling rig .. Why??
are the pix being bandied about of the actual vehicle/load, that the fine relates to or another 'incident'?
but was it a " clerical error " or just taking a chance and swallowing a small fine if caught??

Categorically the earlier.

 

[Regy53]

Common sense has sorted this out…..

 

[hiluxman]

Common sense has sorted this out…..

Yes, £10k is alot more proportional.

 

[DaveDCB]

Common sense has sorted this out…..

Do expand?

 

[Regy53]

Been reduced to 10 k today

 

[DaveDCB]

Been reduced to 10 k today

Original fine just meant to send a shockwave across the industry? Bet the legal bill for lynch was a lot more just getting it reduced!

 

[6feetdown]

Original fine just meant to send a shockwave across the industry? Bet the legal bill for lynch was a lot more just getting it reduced!

Yep usual people making the money no doubt

 

[Monkeybusiness]

It sounds like the original judge in the magistrate court was a total bellend tbh!

 

[V8Druid]

Yes, £10k is alot more proportional.

but as said " a small fine would hardly be punitive - might even be considered as running costs of taking a risk " and that level is small change, to such a BIG outfit

 

[hiluxman]

but as said " a small fine would hardly be punitive - might even be considered as running costs of taking a risk " and that level is small change, to such a BIG outfit

10k is still a big chunk of money.

The lorry in question was allowed to carry on, it was purely a paperwork cockup. Nothing safety wise was compromised.

 

[6feetdown]

but as said " a small fine would hardly be punitive - might even be considered as running costs of taking a risk " and that level is small change, to such a BIG outfit

So why aren't the caravaners sorted!

 

[JD450A]

Personal opinion is the books been rewritten again that the big players can do what they like.

There are little outfits being hammered for not having nets over dropside wagons with tools in or silly HGV defects.

Just my penneth.

 

[V8Druid]

10k is still a big chunk of money.

The lorry in question was allowed to carry on, it was purely a paperwork cockup. Nothing safety wise was compromised.

to us - yes - to a company that size - running costs
realistically it should not have been allowed to move or it makes a mockery of the stop assuming it was a genuine paper cock up - too many vagaries/anomalies in the whole reported story

 

[V8Druid]

Personal opinion is the books been rewritten again that the big players can do what they like.

There are little outfits being hammered for not having nets over dropside wagons with tools in or silly HGV defects.

Just my penneth.

bang on Rory - easy targets who won't argue/fight back
technically I should have had a net/tarp over this ... didn't move a millimetre in 200+ miles and no net or tarp wouldv'e held it in place if it had 'broken loose'

 

[JD450A]

The issue I draw too is the "it wasn't the same lorry argument"

So that's another case. No markerboards are an immediate prohibition and a big fine for some.

It's well known that in the 2010's multiple players where undercutting/pissing under others by shifting gear without a MO and playing games to beat others to site..... That's without an entire conversation about how the Railway wallas get away stacking STGO trailers with dumpy bags to the point there is no way you could class it under C&U regs.

Our entire system of governance for commercial wagons is outdated and in some cases unnecessarily bureaucratic. But the same people that stand by the "law" are the ones manipulating it.

 

[DaveDCB]

I’d say 9/10 pallet delivery wagons I have all the pallets inside are unsecured with pallet truck floating around the back… probably 7/10 merchant deliveries are all the same no straps on anything.. they’d be such a easy pick off but it never seems to be the case?