Kinshofer tr 025

[Spurry]

025 model tilty ..... both these blokes are working in daps FFS ...... can't say they are particularly confidence inspiring

Probably showing my age a bit, but what is daps?

 

[V8Druid]

Probably showing my age a bit, but what is daps?

 

[Spurry]

I did wonder if it was the footwear, so thanks for the info.
I use these which look similar, from screwfix

Site Donard Size 15 Black Water-Resistant Steel Toe Cap Safety Trainers (506VU)​

 

[V8Druid]

I did wonder if it was the footwear, so thanks for the info.
I use these which look similar, from screwfix

Site Donard Size 15 Black Water-Resistant Steel Toe Cap Safety Trainers (506VU)​

don't look much much like steelies to me

these possibly ???

 

[Lancs Lad]

don't look much much like steelies to me
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these possibly ???
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You'd be surprised there's loads of lightweight stuff about now. Puma etc.

 

[Storrsy]

Id it just me but that Kinshofer looks a real lump on the end of that Cat. It may not weigh much but sure looks bulky to me...

 

[Furniss]

i think you would have to be on it to tell, camera angles and all that.

not sure whether 30° would be enough when the rest do at least 40° ....

 

[Maxus]

I'm very tempted by it... looks like it'll be a good choice for direct mount, which has its advantages - weight, build height and simplicity. Like you say furniss, the 30° tilt is less than the 40° you would get on other units. Do you think it's a deal breaker? Have never owned or spent any significant time on a tilty equipped machine

 

[CPS]

I genuinely think the lack of tilt would be limiting.

 

[Furniss]

I'm very tempted by it... looks like it'll be a good choice for direct mount, which has its advantages - weight, build height and simplicity. Like you say furniss, the 30° tilt is less than the 40° you would get on other units. Do you think it's a deal breaker? Have never owned or spent any significant time on a tilty equipped machine

yes i think if your comparing it to 45° of engcon you will have to get that extra tilt with rotation and curl many a time, in fact lots of instances i could imagine it being harder, doable but trickier, i mean still amazing addition but when 45° is available im not sure.
there are others more experienced than me to chime in ...the likes of gunners etc

 

[Brendan]

Chased them up to day still awaiting a price as they need to find out if can be done with S30 180 top, seems like it might be direct mount only which is as useful as tits on a bull

 

[V8Druid]

I genuinely think the lack of tilt would be limiting.

deffo with std tilty buckets hung on it

... gonna need a geometry re-think for 30 deg.s tilt

 

[Brendan]

deffo with std tilty buckets hung on it
View attachment 81442 ... gonna need a geometry re-think for 30 deg.s tilt

To be fair the 30 degree tilt isn't much of a problem if you can't even get a price for it

 

[Storrsy]

To be fair the 30 degree tilt isn't much of a problem if you can't even get a price for it

They obviously don't want to sell any..

 

[Brendan]

They obviously don't want to sell any..

To be fair I'm window shopping but still at some point the sticker going to the be the right price. But from the sounds of it I seem to be asking for something unique? I thought all the tilty companies had all adopted the s standard so seems odd that a S30 180 pickup is such an awkward proposition, still haven't had an answer as to whether it has a rotation sensor

 

[CPS]

I think being German ( I think anyway) S30-180 might not be an option there. They probably have a difference type.
Id seriously doubt if they have a rotation sensor

 

[Maxus]

I've decided to go for it. TR025 has been ordered.

I've got direct mount, df06 t/e (6 pipe, tilt sharing with extra function), I've been given the opportunity to buy a, yet to be released, integrated gripper for it at a heavily discounted rate (£3k off anticipated rrp) in return for feedback, which I have gone for.

It's s30 - 180 lower coupler, and I've got 3 RF system buckets with it, a cable bucket, a digging bucket and grading bucket. They weren't cheap, but they're made from hb400 and hb500 for the cutting edge, they are light, and I figure the geometry is optimal.

Thought it was an interesting offering beyond the usual steelwrist/engcon/rototilt. I like the look of some of the other kinshofer products, it all looks like very high quality stuff, particularly the grabs - hopefully it'll be the case with the tilty.

Kinshofer UK HQ is just up the road from me in Cheltenham, and I've heard back up from Kinshofer is good.

All in the bill is £13.3k + VAT, due to be fitted late June. So far I can't fault the service from Kinshofer, they have been responsive and answered all my questions when I've asked them.

I do have concerns about 30° tilt, but in my line of work I think I can tolerate this limitation. I also accept that direct mount is a compromise, but with the lack of protruding cylinders I reason that it'll mitigate some of the drawbacks, I'll also save on weight, cost and build height.

With almost no user feedback, it's a gamble, I'll certainly keep everyone updated with my honest thoughts about the unit

 

[Furniss]

Congratulations - look forward to feedback

 

[Will_c]

I've decided to go for it. TR025 has been ordered.

I've got direct mount, df06 t/e (6 pipe, tilt sharing with extra function), I've been given the opportunity to buy a, yet to be released, integrated gripper for it at a heavily discounted rate (£3k off anticipated rrp) in return for feedback, which I have gone for.

It's s30 - 180 lower coupler, and I've got 3 RF system buckets with it, a cable bucket, a digging bucket and grading bucket. They weren't cheap, but they made from hb400 and hb500 for the cutting edge, they are light, and I figure the geometry is optimal.

Thought it was an interesting offering beyond the usual steelwrist/engcon/rototilt. I like the look of some of the other kinshofer products, it all looks like very high quality stuff, particularly the grabs - hopefully it'll be the case with the tilty.

Kinshofer UK HQ is just up the road from me in Cheltenham, and I've heard back up from Kinshofer is good.

All in the bill is £13.3 + VAT, due to be fitted late June. So far I can't fault the service from Kinshofer, they have been responsive and answered all my questions when I've asked them.

I do have concerns about 30° tilt, but in my line of work I think I can tolerate this limitation. I also accept that direct mount is a compromise, but with the lack of protruding cylinders I reason that it'll mitigate some of the drawbacks of direct mount. I'll also save on weight, cost and build height.

With almost no user feedback, it's a gamble, I'll certainly keep everyone updated with my honest thoughts about the unit

The TR025 is definitely a very compact unit. I did consider using a similar cylinder arrangement to achieve the tilt function.
With the homemade tiltrotator I’ve managed to achieve around 37 degrees of tilt, which is decent, but getting closer to 45 degrees would definitely make a noticeable difference — especially when trying to backfill a trench side-on with the bucket tilted upwards.

As you’re using buckets designed specifically for it, I’m assuming they probably run at less of an angle to help work around that issue.

 

[Spurry]

I've decided to go for it. TR025 has been ordered.

I've got direct mount, df06 t/e (6 pipe, tilt sharing with extra function), I've been given the opportunity to buy a, yet to be released, integrated gripper for it at a heavily discounted rate (£3k off anticipated rrp) in return for feedback, which I have gone for.

It's s30 - 180 lower coupler, and I've got 3 RF system buckets with it, a cable bucket, a digging bucket and grading bucket. They weren't cheap, but they made from hb400 and hb500 for the cutting edge, they are light, and I figure the geometry is optimal.

Thought it was an interesting offering beyond the usual steelwrist/engcon/rototilt. I like the look of some of the other kinshofer products, it all looks like very high quality stuff, particularly the grabs - hopefully it'll be the case with the tilty.

Kinshofer UK HQ is just up the road from me in Cheltenham, and I've heard back up from Kinshofer is good.

All in the bill is £13.3 + VAT, due to be fitted late June. So far I can't fault the service from Kinshofer, they have been responsive and answered all my questions when I've asked them.

I do have concerns about 30° tilt, but in my line of work I think I can tolerate this limitation. I also accept that direct mount is a compromise, but with the lack of protruding cylinders I reason that it'll mitigate some of the drawbacks of direct mount. I'll also save on weight, cost and build height.

With almost no user feedback, it's a gamble, I'll certainly keep everyone updated with my honest thoughts about the unit

Glad that you have made a decision. Seems we have both been delving into this rototilt business for quite some time. Looking at my notes from last September, apparently the Rototilt uses a Kinshofer rotator linked to a Uni Lok. I did try the Kinshofer dealer but did not get very far. The Engcon and Steelwrist agents were very helpful though.
Your bill looks like quite the bargain..