Has anyone got a Debon tipping trailer.

[V8Druid]

Thanks, usefull info, it’s hard to find any pics of the axle setup on the debon except this photo which looks like it has the addition of a shock absorber- never heard of that on a trailer like this- is that a good thing or not I wonder

differences in torsion units ...

the semi is a rubber block bonded to the spindle and pushed into the body
the full is totally bonded (the Moulton design - ala Flexitor)
and the insert is just that square shaft with rubber rods all pushed into the housing .... as said, have seen these rotated 90 deg.s when seriously overloaded ... not seen it personally, but'd guess it's possible to do the same to the semi too

Bramber had a display set up in their foyer in Treorchy with an eliptical wheel driving a roadwheel attached to a unit ... I personally saw it over a period of twentyish years, bumping around 24/7/365
they also had a unit on display that'd spent most of its life in the sea ...... the housing was 90% eaten away, but what was left was seriously bonded to the rubber, as was the centre splined shaft, solid in the rubber .
they were expensive units but fit and forget

 

[Russell]

Don't the Brian James have rubber axles?

 

[V8Druid]

Don't the Brian James have rubber axles?

most do these days TBH ..... Ifors use parabolic springs on the whole, as far as i am aware ... I like multi leaf ..... heavier, but if a leaf lets go you can still get home usually .... when a parabolic lets got ... you'm f**ked

not a lot wrong with many modern rubber systems ... just not overly suitable for twin/triple axle set ups generally, for the above reasons mainly.
for single axles they're fine

 

[Flying Torquewrench]

interesting drop stands for ramp loading, but can't see many folks crawling under to set them ... that'd load the back axle beam significantly if not used

Don’t need to crawl under it as you can lower the drop stands from the side. Having said that, I agree with you that they won’t be used often if fitted.

 

[T whiting]

Don’t need to crawl under it as you can lower the drop stands from the side. Having said that, I agree with you that they won’t be used often if fitted.
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I know on the Ifor and Edwards you don't need to wind them up everytime if there set right you can just swing them down and there near enough for loading

 

[Russell]

Crikey those Brian James are some money. £6900 plus the vat with sides and ramps.
Think I'll stick with the plant trailer.

 

[Brendan]

Crikey those Brian James are some money. £6900 plus the vat with sides and ramps.
Think I'll stick with the plant trailer.

Thought the 3.5t 3.2m was 4.2k plus vat

 

[Brendan]

Got drop down stands on mine but completely pointless, easy enough to get at and drop down but probably about 100-150mm short of the ground.

 

[Russell]

That was with tall sides but still .

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Got drop down stands on mine but completely pointless, easy enough to get at and drop down but probably about 100-150mm short of the ground.

Doesn’t surprise me with Brian James, in my experience they are crap.
My plant trailer has cracked across the tub many times, and it is largely because the ramp supports are nowhere near the ground (and cannot be adjusted). You’d have to load a 13 tonne machine to squash the suspension enough for the supports to take any weight and remove all the loading from the bed.
Look good, are well finished, cost plenty but are badly designed unfortunately.

 

[Brendan]

Doesn’t surprise me with Brian James, in my experience they are crap.
My plant trailer has cracked across the tub many times, and it is largely because the ramp supports are nowhere near the ground (and cannot be adjusted). You’d have to load a 13 tonne machine to squash the suspension enough for the supports to take any weight and remove all the loading from the bed.
Look good, are well finished, cost plenty but are badly designed unfortunately.

I'll take a pic of them tomorrow but the loading legs are pathetic, even if you tip it all the way up I doubt they would touch the floor

 

[CPS]

Doesn’t surprise me with Brian James, in my experience they are crap.
My plant trailer has cracked across the tub many times, and it is largely because the ramp supports are nowhere near the ground (and cannot be adjusted). You’d have to load a 13 tonne machine to squash the suspension enough for the supports to take any weight and remove all the loading from the bed.
Look good, are well finished, cost plenty but are badly designed unfortunately.

I have the 4.5m Brian James tilt bed and I have to say I love it! £4370 they want for a new one, and they were giving me a decent enough price for the trade in when I left it in for service.
I think I'll order the new one although its a July delivery.

 

[V8Druid]

I have the 4.5m Brian James tilt bed and I have to say I love it! £4370 they want for a new one, and they were giving me a decent enough price for the trade in when I left it in for service.
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where/how does that tilt Aiden ... not on the back axle I hope?

 

[CPS]

where/how does that tilt Aiden ... not on the back axle I hope?

It pivots at the drawbar, but the weight is not on the axle, it rests the chassis on the ground

(not the best pic)

 

[V8Druid]

It pivots at the drawbar, but the weight is not on the axle, it rests the chassis on the ground

(not the best pic)
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I sincerely hope they'm bidding you serious bucks on the trade in Aiden ..... nice looking trailer that ... look good in Wales

 

[V8Druid]

Yes I know they’re not British (french I think) but I also don’t want to wait for half a century for a tipping trailer and local dealer has them in stock.
They look well put together IMO, nice dimensions. 11x6ft6 and not silly money, they have a steel floor covering as standard and a lot of other nice features including 3 way tip.

https://www.mpearsengineering.co.uk/products/pw3-3t5-tipper-trailer/

where's Kevin? @Furniss

 

[Brendan]

It's closer to 75-100mm but either way never use them as its just more crap having to carry multiple wooden blocks on the trailer to suit

 

[Cyberprog]

Your axles are still in the garage Gra Just let me know when you're next over this side of the bridge!