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Gunners

Gunners

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Did someone say they we looking for one ??

Thats the old one thats based on a 2t chassis, although does high tip. They do come up relatively often. I did consider one but having had to weave my way past parked vans and scaffold on site today, I'm quite pleased with my choice to go with the smaller version. And I don't need high tip, I work in the ground!
 
Gunners

Gunners

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Been a while since I last updated my thread. And its been really busy, plenty of work on which I am grateful for. Did a tarmac repair, new gully and soakaway at a local private school, excavated for a new house with a "passive slab" where all the insulation goes under the concrete. This job looked mint in these photos but a few days later, it turned out I had been given the wrong level to dig to on the drawing and the whole lot had to be reduced a further 140mm. Rory will remember my swearing about this at the time!
In other news Ive done some trenching with a direct mounted 9" bucket just to make sure I can still operate without a tiltrotator 🤪 Did some decking, then returned to the self build house to backfill around the slab for a scaffold mat and install a land drain. Tilty was invaluable for this one as the space left around the outside of the house is now really tight. Other than that, mooved my cattle to keep them on good grass, dug an electric main trench on another development with the every reliable 8015 and have just started what will become 6 weeks of school works in various places so busy busy.
 

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Jimoz

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Did they put the drains in for passive slab after you'd stoned it up?
 
Routy56

Routy56

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Been a while since I last updated my thread. And its been really busy, plenty of work on which I am grateful for. Did a tarmac repair, new gully and soakaway at a local private school, excavated for a new house with a "passive slab" where all the insulation goes under the concrete. This job looked mint in these photos but a few days later, it turned out I had been given the wrong level to dig to on the drawing and the whole lot had to be reduced a further 140mm. Rory will remember my swearing about this at the time!
In other news Ive done some trenching with a direct mounted 9" bucket just to make sure I can still operate without a tiltrotator 🤪 Did some decking, then returned to the self build house to backfill around the slab for a scaffold mat and install a land drain. Tilty was invaluable for this one as the space left around the outside of the house is now really tight. Other than that, mooved my cattle to keep them on good grass, dug an electric main trench on another development with the every reliable 8015 and have just started what will become 6 weeks of school works in various places so busy busy.
Great selection of work Ollie. 😁
That gully in the tarmac looks well sorted. Did you use a plate compactor or roller for that great finish?
Like you have been busy busy busy - crazy times buddy :ROFLMAO:
 
Gunners

Gunners

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Did they put the drains in for passive slab after you'd stoned it up?
The drawing always showed a land drain around the outside, which I had priced to do at the same time as the reduce dig as it would have been easy. However, it was removed from my package as it was assumed the slab installer was doing it. Then he didn't - so it became my problem again! The foul drains are installed below the insulation, in the stone beneath the slab. This makes it very hard to get falls out to the existing manhole as this new house is much lower than the old bungalow was. Its a bit of an odd design really and they need to come up with a better system as the last passive slab I did suffered from the same problem. The outgoing foul needs to be over 1.5m deep for it to work or it becomes a pumped foul - costly and unnecessary in my opinion for want of a bit of thought as to how to pass a drain through the insulation layer.
I have to take the drains from the perimeter of the slab and try and create a fall to the road now.... Didn't realise groundwork involved being a magician too 🤪

That gully in the tarmac looks well sorted. Did you use a plate compactor or roller for that great finish?
Thanks, used a walk behind single drum diesel roller. I put concrete down underneath as this road takes a lot of traffic so I guess it didnt have anywhere to go except be rolled nice and flat!
 
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Jimoz

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Yes these passive slabs have thick makeup to ffl don't they. I think it's generally accepted coming up through slab is most airtight and least cold bridge way to do it
 
Hg2702

Hg2702

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Top work as ever ! that YouTube video on your end on recently was a great insight and potentially an expensive one ...
 
GazCro

GazCro

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Ironic really that you build a house to be as energy efficient as possible then need an electric supply to pump you're waste away. You see the work and amount of materials that go into them there no greener to actually build and the build cost will take years to get back in energy savings. Probably benefit the next owner more tbh.
 
V8Druid

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do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
may be a 'dull Q' Ollie, but why not have a straight joint either side of the tar ... the stepped line must've been a PITA
 
Gunners

Gunners

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may be a 'dull Q' Ollie, but why not have a straight joint either side of the tar ... the stepped line must've been a PITA
That was originally the plan Druid. Then I kept finding more bad bits and as I'd priced to redo a certain area, I didn't fancy going back to them with a double cost to patch it up - so went with the compromise of just cutting the bad bits out. Doesn't look as good but they were thankful for the cost compromise.
 
Gunners

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Well I've had a right tough time of it the last couple of months. Really made me question why I run my own business, but you get times like this and I've just had to put my head down and keep plodding away. Working on my own really hasn't helped as these jobs are getting quite large in size now and there's realistically only so much one man can do, regardless of the fancy tech and spinning buckets. But its been very profitable and moving on from the last 2 months, I am going to concentrate more on work that utilises the digger and my skills on them. I can earn good money doing it and they don't earn anything sat at the yard while I am off doing some landscaping or whatever. I certainly wont be laying a patio again any time soon!

So job 1 was a "mile a day" track at a local infant school. Basically a type 3 path with grit spread to level it up, then a carpet goes on top, nailed into the grass either side. Was quite pleased with how this one dug and the combination of the 2.7t and 1.5t dumper worked really well on this job, as I could stick to the path when moving about and not ruin the rest of the playing field.
Job 2 was building a MUGA (Multi use games area for all you acronym lovers). A 32x16m car park base basically, that's edged and has a shock pad, then carpet on top, again, nailed into the surface. Now the problem arose here because right at the end of the job, the contractor who I was carrying out the work for, decided to suddenly give me a tolerance of 6mm across a 3m edge. Now I've not heard of such a tight tolerance being applied to what is known as a dynamic base before - and it wasn't in the contract either! A tarmac base yes, but they are machine laid. My Idig gets me to within 10mm either way so after many hours of hand screeding (on my own in that really hot period in August) I had it down to 10mm or less across the 3m straight edge. This was deemed not acceptable apparently and we fell out about it. My point being they couldn't prove that 6mm was the required tolerance, and with the attitude they were showing, it seemed some kind of game I felt to knock me. There was also an argument about some extra stone I had required which I proved was due to their calculation error in quantities (they supplied materials) - they were blaming my digging. Eventually we agreed to split the cost on another contractor coming and "levelling" it (because what I had done was obviously a f****ng mountain range!) Cost me about £500 and the lesson we have learnt is - agree tolerances before pricing, don't work on labour and machine price only because it would seem you are still responsible for everything anyway, and don't work for that company again!
Anyway, moving on, Job 3 was then a private garden revamp, thought this would be a nice little local job, but its been hard work, job was looking great until I pointed it with a resin compound called Joint It - because the customer wanted a fancy colour.... It stained the slabs with some kind of oil which I am reliably told will fade with sunlight. But the customer understandably isn't happy with that answer and I am slowly trying multiple cleaning products to work out what will get it off. So far, a degreaser seems to be making fair progress but its hard work with a scrubbing brush by hand, I'm doing a bit as and when I can. Long story short, not paid on this one yet... couldn't use my digger on it because of gate access, job seems to be never ending with the customer wanting his fencing replaced too and inexperience of using a resin jointing compound has effectively ruined what was looking a lovely job. I might still have to smash it all up and re-lay it yet. 😩
To top it all off, my cattle have had issues with fly strike this autumn and one has had to have an eye removed. Took up well over a day of my work time, god knows what the vet bill will be and I feel really sorry for the poor girl. Another lesson learned - having cows is a very expensive way to buy burgers!
Job 4 was a nice block paving job at a local private school, I've since won another 3 jobs there and they seem really keen to give me more work so that's great. They pay on time, easy to work for, don't argue prices and are 15 mins from home.
Job 5 was the first bit of machine driving for 6 weeks or more! Bit of ditching for a guy who lives literally between the racecourse at Ascot. God knows what that property is worth! Nice to spend a sunny day on the little 8015.
And Job 6 was the first outing for the 8026 for a few weeks too, A bit of land clearance, removing gorse and levelling an area for a new orchard to be planted. Nice views on this one looking out towards the Surrey Hills.

Still its good to be busy I guess!
 

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Furniss

Furniss

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Sounds like you have had a s**t time of things, I have been through it too, I used to do whatever was asked and years ago used to mess about with resin bonding, flagging, indoor pools and literally anything that I was asked by existing customers to do I would look at, more recently over say the last 5 years I have made my life easier and stuck to the machine work, and specialised as much as possible, because you narrow down your suppliers and have less and less hassle, less research time etc , in the past there was many a time I used to have a load of plant parked up and find myself messing about with a patio or something for the customer to come back and say he wasnt happy with the cut around his clothes airer or some such thing :rolleyes: the devil really is in the detail.
It took me a long time to have the confidence to say no to work and just take on the right jobs(usually),now when we go install a treatment plant for example the customer is usually chuffed to bits when we leave because they expected a real mess, I stay away from the details wherever poss :)
 
Nick...

Nick...

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Sorry to hear of your issues,especially your highland cow.my digger sits in shed at moment and dare not take on any work,but got plenty lined up.got all my wheat to drill at the moment and rain not helping.had well over 5 1/2 inches since 24sept.
nick...
 
Routy56

Routy56

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Yes I agree with what you are saying Ollie and really feel for you mate :rolleyes:
On job no 2 - how the hell can they expect a 6mm tolerance and then to knock you on price is unfair......
When things go wrong you sometimes question what the hell we are doing as plant operators.
Like the time I hit a gas main recently :eek:
Now when customers ask me to lay concrete or blocks then I simply tell them that they want a Groundworker.
And then go on to recommend one of my business partners, who get me to dig it anyway :ROFLMAO:
Most I'll do solo these days is a dig out and lay gravel over type 1 :cool:
 
Furniss

Furniss

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Its about managing expectations too - we do concrete work but I make it clear from the outset we are not concrete specialists and if they want fancy finishes etc then they need to look elsewhere...... then they often say wow thats mint for someone who doesnt do it...... and if its a bit average then Im off the hook :LOL:
 
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