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6feetdown
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f**k em"make hay ..." won't be selling a lot once the wood-burner ban bites...... first steps're already in the pipeline with registration of all wood burners imminent ... (an' they can go **** themselves, locally )
" Did I invite you on to my property? No? Best leave while you are still able to " ....
saw a great quote recently ... "the older you get, the less of a deterrent life becomes "
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
maz
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I spent most of the summer cutting and splitting about 35 vented bulk bags worth for my own stove. I wouldn’t give any of them away for £150, I was like a burst ball every night processing it, horrible back breaking work, especially if the wood is the lumpy shite thats not processor friendly!
Storrsy
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The man who cuts his own firewood gets twice as warm as they say!
I don't even bother doing my own firewood now for myself. I just buy it in. What's the point breaking my back splitting my own wood only to have to be rehandled several times before I even get it into the house. When I can sit in my nice warm machine and earn the money to buy it in instead
I don't have a processor or a splitter so it's never worth the effort with an axe
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Smiffy
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The man who cuts his own firewood gets twice as warm as they say!
I don't even bother doing my own firewood now for myself. I just buy it in. What's the point breaking my back splitting my own wood only to have to be rehandled several times before I even get it into the house. When I can sit in my nice warm machine and earn the money to buy it in instead
When I lived in a caravan on a farm the boss said I could have firewood for free if I only felled the dead or dieing trees. Went round felling all the ash with ash die back. Only took the main stem just pushed the brash back in the woods for habitat. Was so easy to split with an axe I don't think you could have gone any quicker with a splitter.
Sod doing it with oak or hornbeam by hand
doobin
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Interesting comparison site posted on Arbtalk the other day, accounting for efficiencies of various appliances.
Logs are currently second cheapest, only heating oil is cheaper.
I had the same deal as you when I was 17 (remember I mentioned making £40 a load after work on the farm?) I was doing it with a mate, we couldn’t believe our luck when we found a massive old tree down in the woods. Went down the local saw shop and got stitched up like kippers buying a pair of Double Eagle 50s- with manual oilers. New old stock, boys, going cheap. Yeah, turned out new old stock from the ‘87 storm- this would have been around 2005!
Off we went, and ringed this tree up, hauling it back with the Honda ATC250es and a trailer. See, back then, you bought the Honda trikes if you couldn’t afford a quad. How times have changed- should have kept it. Along with the Suzuki SJ413, Wembley Longbow .22 and a multitude of other stuff from my teenage years.
Back at the yard, we attacked the rounds with gusto with our axes. They just bounced off. After ten minutes, we’d split just one round, and that already had a crack in it. Up comes old Fred, the relief milker. “What are you doing pissing around with that?” he says “That’s Hornbeam!”
. We ended up halving each ring to about 5” just to split it. Proceeded to stack it in a disused shed (paying the landlord £20 a month!) where it sat and grew mould.No wonder I’m not keen on logs.
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Jimoz
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Surely is depends what you're paying for the fuel be it logs oil or gas? Is there a weight to kwh rule with logs? Some rough googling gets .35kg ?
doobin
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All there on the chart- current average prices, heating method efficiency and comparison costs. I'll try to find it
doobin
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Here ya go- updated monthly.
Energy Cost Comparison - Nottingham Energy Partnership
Different energy sources are measured in different units: kWh, therms, BTU, cubic metres, litres and more. This makes it very difficult to compare the actual costs for powering a heating system between different energy sources. In order to make a fair comparison we need standardised units to...
nottenergy.com
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
very interesting and informative Doob .. cheersHere ya go- updated monthly.
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Energy Cost Comparison - Nottingham Energy Partnership
Different energy sources are measured in different units: kWh, therms, BTU, cubic metres, litres and more. This makes it very difficult to compare the actual costs for powering a heating system between different energy sources. In order to make a fair comparison we need standardised units to...
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Bri963
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Sounds like most of us have had a bash at firewood at some point. I started when I was on the farm, begging The odd tree that we felled for fence lines and a tractor and trailer to get it home. We were in a tied cottage with only a footbridge across the dyke to it, we used to tip the wood in the dyke then drag it up our side into the garden.
The processor was a two-man saw operated by me on my own, my grandad’s axe (still got it, it weighs a bit less than it did due to all of the sharpenings) Things improved when an uncle gave me a 14” non-running Husky, which a spark plug and carb re-con sorted for the next five or six years.
Later, in my own place and with a bit of space, when I got the start on plant, anything that came down on site was fair game, especially when I could get it tipped at home. Got a bit grim some days, 12 hrs on site then two hours carting and stacking an eight-wheeler load of wood.
Best earner was on a Cat duck clearing an ex-Peterborough Development Corporation tree nursery of unwanted stumps of trees that had got too big to transplant. Most had been cut three or four feet above the stump, so there was some good wood left on them. Me and the boss came to an agreement, to save on tipping charges I ringed up as much as I could with the 084, then loaded it up and he had it tipped it at my house. So I got paid to saw up around 40 tonnes of logs, then what I got for selling it. I hated the sight of the 084 after that, I can still feel my shoulders vibrating 30 years on.
The processor was a two-man saw operated by me on my own, my grandad’s axe (still got it, it weighs a bit less than it did due to all of the sharpenings) Things improved when an uncle gave me a 14” non-running Husky, which a spark plug and carb re-con sorted for the next five or six years.
Later, in my own place and with a bit of space, when I got the start on plant, anything that came down on site was fair game, especially when I could get it tipped at home. Got a bit grim some days, 12 hrs on site then two hours carting and stacking an eight-wheeler load of wood.
Best earner was on a Cat duck clearing an ex-Peterborough Development Corporation tree nursery of unwanted stumps of trees that had got too big to transplant. Most had been cut three or four feet above the stump, so there was some good wood left on them. Me and the boss came to an agreement, to save on tipping charges I ringed up as much as I could with the 084, then loaded it up and he had it tipped it at my house. So I got paid to saw up around 40 tonnes of logs, then what I got for selling it. I hated the sight of the 084 after that, I can still feel my shoulders vibrating 30 years on.
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bobthebuilder
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my old chap used to work for ashtons sawmills and used to bring a 10 tonner home everyday with "the waste off cuts ".used to sell 2 to 3 thousand ton a year ,easy fire wood ,if there was ever such a thing
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
Unfortunately firewood has become much more expensive. The idiot Gove came up with new rules about all sellers having to be registered (for a fee and paperwork) and any sale under 2m3 needs to be kiln dried.
Obviously at present plenty are ignoring it, but it will only take a few high profile prosecutions and you local seller of bagged firewood will stop or have to significantly increase his price.
Obviously at present plenty are ignoring it, but it will only take a few high profile prosecutions and you local seller of bagged firewood will stop or have to significantly increase his price.
Giles
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I just do my own when we have it, clear any sites etc keep the bigger logs or tree comes down at parents farm ring it up then use big stone cropper to split it. Got 7 Indian stone crates full, seasoning in old stables. At home got two big piles of trees I cleared from garden working through them at moment split a dumpy bucket full to last an evening. Got in roaring away at moment as it’s snowing outside.
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Lancs Lad
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Scabs from the mill burn well doob...plus they really have earnt their coinInteresting comparison site posted on Arbtalk the other day, accounting for efficiencies of various appliances.
Logs are currently second cheapest, only heating oil is cheaper.
I had the same deal as you when I was 17 (remember I mentioned making £40 a load after work on the farm?) I was doing it with a mate, we couldn’t believe our luck when we found a massive old tree down in the woods. Went down the local saw shop and got stitched up like kippers buying a pair of Double Eagle 50s- with manual oilers. New old stock, boys, going cheap. Yeah, turned out new old stock from the ‘87 storm- this would have been around 2005!
Off we went, and ringed this tree up, hauling it back with the Honda ATC250es and a trailer. See, back then, you bought the Honda trikes if you couldn’t afford a quad. How times have changed- should have kept it. Along with the Suzuki SJ413, Wembley Longbow .22 and a multitude of other stuff from my teenage years.
Back at the yard, we attacked the rounds with gusto with our axes. They just bounced off. After ten minutes, we’d split just one round, and that already had a crack in it. Up comes old Fred, the relief milker. “What are you doing pissing around with that?” he says “That’s Hornbeam!”
No wonder I’m not keen on logs.
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Bri963
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Question on pellets, as it’s not something I’ve looked into. Is it just chipped to a certain size, or ground and pelletised? Also, does it have to be moisture checked before sale? Seems if there are regs round logs the same ought to apply to pellets?
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Stroppymonkey
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And you see why I get so pissed when customers tell em they want to switch to electricity to save moneyHere ya go- updated monthly.
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Energy Cost Comparison - Nottingham Energy Partnership
Different energy sources are measured in different units: kWh, therms, BTU, cubic metres, litres and more. This makes it very difficult to compare the actual costs for powering a heating system between different energy sources. In order to make a fair comparison we need standardised units to...
doobin
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Yup we run them through the circular saw bench usually. Harry has sold all the twenty bags already, I’ve not had much call for milling work since and all the butts I had from a job have been converted to cants.Scabs from the mill burn well doob...plus they really have earnt their coin
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