General election

JD450A

JD450A

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But the rumours of new taxs can't help them ?
Reality is any new tax will be a drop in the ocean compared to the interest on mortgages they will accrue.

The fine line labor are walking is the reality that when they crash happens they will bale the slime out to prevent people becoming homeless.....
 
Lancs Lad

Lancs Lad

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Ah, Restore, led by ex-conservative Rupert. Like socialism, can anyone tell me where far right-ism has produced a good outcome?
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Jimoz

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Reform lost a recent by election near me in Shepshed. They lost something like 14% compared to their previous vote share, restore polls at around 6% but they will still tell you Restore are splitting the vote.
Unfortunately all Nigels problems are his own making including falling out with Rupert and causing Restore to be born.
 

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Stroppymonkey

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Reform lost a recent by election near me in Shepshed. They lost something like 14% compared to their previous vote share, restore polls at around 6% but they will still tell you Restore are splitting the vote.
Unfortunately all Nigels problems are his own making including falling out with Rupert and causing Restore to be born.
Be funny if Labour were secretly funding Restore :)
 
Storrsy

Storrsy

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Regardless of whether you're a Restore of Reform voter, they're essentially 2 peas in a pod but i reckon whilst they both exist neither will likely end up in NO 10 because its giving the right side of the electorate choice so splitting the vote and it's also giving ammunition for one to be played against each other depending on who has done or said something a bit naughty that week. If they both really wanted what they think is best for this country then they should grow a pair and work together on this, then they're in with a real chance. Until then get used to labour running the show for the foreseeable I reckon
 
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

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Farage is a lying, duplicitous prick. He and his bunch of ex Tories are basically the establishment. Rupert seems to me to be far more straightforward, honest and trustworthy.

The whole 'they are a nothing party' argument is bollocks. Reform were a nothing party just a few short years ago. The voting share the Restore are capturing and the speed is incredible. They are only a few months old FFS! Reform are running scared. Already Farage has started reposting Rupert's policies verbatim just to try to hold onto the vote. Remember how Farage said only a few months ago that mass deportations were unworkable? He was saying that to try to appeal to the establishment vote, to appear 'electable'. Licking arse. Just look at how his tweets have changed now since he's seen that a large amount of the population agree with Rupert.

Rupert knows that Farage only has to make one mistake and a huge section of his support will turn now that they have a viable alternative to vote for. He also knows (and this is important) that the easiest gains in voting share come from giving the disaffected someone to vote for. On an average turnout of say, 60%, there are a huge amount of votes up for grabs. You simply must not underestimate the maths here. It allows for his 'share of the vote' vs Reform to increase exponentially.

Which leads me to the final point- grassroots support. Look at all the campaigning he is able to command to contest even 'unwinnable' seats. Volunteers. Grass roots. People who suddenly realise that what they've been told is not possible all their lives is possible. We don't have to accept decline. We were at the opening night of the pub near the yard the other night and as we had baby with us we of course got chatting to a young expecting couple who'd recently moved into the village. She let on that she is a Restore supporter. We chinked glasses and I told them that I'd been a member since day 1, with an extra few hundred quid donation along with my twenty. The other night we went round theirs for dinner to meet their new baby. Turns out they've been leafleting in the area and know the local office of Restore well. I'm looking forward to an introduction, and I'm taking two lads from the farm with me who also feel the same way.

Look at how Trump was portrayed leading up to his landslide win. It's the same. He's this, he's that, he's unelectable. Oh crap, he's won!
I have spent the last 2 Saturday mornings door knocking to raise awareness that our local borough elections have been reinstated. There an awful lot of people not home on a Saturday morning, but I have only had 1 voting intention for Restore so far.
I am a Reform campaigner. Whilst you think Restore will take votes from Reform, my guess would be that if Reform disappears then more Reform followers would head back to the Conservatives than to Restore. As much as I like what Rupert Lowe does on parliament holding people to account, he is too extreme on his deportation policy for me.
 
TiltyShaun

TiltyShaun

Well-known member
Anyway how did you @TiltyShaun do with the vetting for Reform? Guessing you weren't the guy got caught this week calling the pakis parasites and burying pork in their gardens!? I mean we are all thinking that though right?! 🤣
I have been selected locally but still awaiting full vetting. I haven’t seen the full video, only clips, unfortunately you have some complete idiots across all parties. I think it is fair to say that there are parasites in all colonies and creeds. But, if you get elected you represent your parties policies but all your constituents.
 
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