Dumpers - Cab or no Cab

[DaveDCB]

You and me both mate! Especially over five years finance....

Funnily enough I haven’t seen many finance offers flying around this year, only CAT early on in the year, nothing much since?

 

[T whiting]

@T whiting interesting comment on steering lock - I hadn’t envisaged this being a thing? The Thwaites version literally looks like they have just stuck a cab on the mainframe?

Thwaites were 8k more for a cab with ac fyi @Gunners 🫣

Yes at full steering lock and full articulation the skip get pretty near the steering column the cab is square on the front so they wound the steering stops out to stop it colliding

 

[doobin]

Funnily enough I haven’t seen many finance offers flying around this year, only CAT early on in the year, nothing much since?

Plenty of subsidised finance out there. But with base rate where it is it’s all more than folk are used to.

 

[hiluxman]

Plenty of subsidised finance out there. But with base rate where it is it’s all more than folk are used to.

My e10 was 0% a few months ago, would of been rude not to.

 

[doobin]

My e10 was 0% a few months ago, would have been rude not to.

It’s still the best micro by far if you are dealing with tight gaps.

Out on mine today, 7 years old and just ticked over 700 hours. £400 readies by 13:00 and 8 litres of diesel used, what’s not to like?

 

[DaveDCB]

Plenty of subsidised finance out there. But with base rate where it is it’s all more than folk are used to.

Just not been shoved under my nose as much as it had been previously!

 

[APhillips]

And thats £8k on top of an already inflated price for the standard machine!
Had prices well north of £20k for a 3t straight tip earlier this year. When you can hire them for £130/week its just not worth owning one.
@T whiting has a good point here. Find a pre 2018 Terex with the full fat 444 engine in - before they nuked them to 75hp. And spend some money refurbing it. Even with the cost of the best raincoat you can buy for your operator - its going to be a better machine for half the cost.

Its not the JCB 444 engine one you want, go a little earlier and get a Terex with the Deutz TCD3.6, those were proper rockets, around 90hp in the 6t and 110hp in the 9t! I did the majority of the installation development on that and the JCB one.

If I were choosing a cab, I'd probably bite the bullet and try and find a dual view. Being brutally honest, the Mecalac looks great but isn't really quiet enough inside. I'd most likely be looking at a Wacker.

 

[hiluxman]

It’s still the best micro by far if you are dealing with tight gaps.

Out on mine today, 7 years old and just ticked over 700 hours. £400 readies by 13:00 and 8 litres of diesel used, what’s not to like?View attachment 83650

Just let my old one go, 10 years old 2500hrs never had a pin or Bush in it. Don't get me wrong you could feel the freshness between them but I do keep on top of greasing and the odd shimm

Still love my 8010 tho, that's now 16 years old but we won't go there in this thread

I've never been able to justify the cost of new dumpers so I've always bought decent used....and they have always made the best sense.

 

[V8Druid]

It’s still the best micro by far if you are dealing with tight gaps.

Out on mine today, 7 years old and just ticked over 700 hours. £400 readies by 13:00 and 8 litres of diesel used, what’s not to like?View attachment 83650

how'd you get away with tipping that on the road .... would be all over you here with the first shovel full

 

[DaveDCB]

how'd you get away with tipping that on the road .... would be all over you here with the first shovel full

He legged it

 

[doobin]

how'd you get away with tipping that on the road .... would be all over you here with the first shovel full

Do it all the time.

If anyone comes to moan I just thump my chest and say ‘Polski!’ Then point at the customer and say ‘Him bosso!’

 

[DaveDCB]

Funnily enough this has popped up today!

 

[JD450A]

We have two with 1004 phasers.

 

[V8Druid]

We have two with 1004 phasers.

pretty sure it's what's in my Thwaites 6t swivel - JCB axles and boxes

 

[Storrsy]

I agree, the 1 ton dumpers look and feel unstable, for the tight access i use a small tracked dumper - the skip is not that far off size wise and you get more control. Ability to move on gh104 trailer is essential - I'll keep an eye out for a 2.3T thwaites. There's a nice looking thwaites 1.5t swivel hi tip on fb market that's looks just the ticket. Timing is not good for me though - need to finish a few jobs before I can invest further.... back to the original question of this thread, I would not get a cabbed version. Extra weight, extra cost, extra stuff to break. I will get a fishing brolly and cable tie to rops!View attachment 83626

Was using this 1.5t thwaites the customer had on tyre. Not my cup of tea tbh- a 2 ton is only marginally wider but a far more solidly built machine. Thicker skip etc more power and stability. The 1.5t feels very garden-esque and It felt pretty tippy with even those modest rocks in it

 

[hiluxman]

Was using this 1.5t thwaites the customer had on tyre. Not my cup of tea tbh- a 2 ton is only marginally wider but a far more solidly built machine. Thicker skip etc more power and stability. The 1.5t feels very garden-esque and It felt pretty tippy with even those modest rocks in it

My thwaites 1.5t hi swivel is same as a 2t. Plenty man enough for the job and you get way more than 1.5t in the skip

 

[sandy2210]

guy that i worked for always insisted that the digger and dumper should be the same size ie 3 ton digger 3 ton dumper 30 ton digger 30 ton dumper
always seemed to work out fine

 

[Storrsy]

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My thwaites 1.5t hi swivel is same as a 2t. Plenty man enough for the job and you get way more than 1.5t in the skip

Yours looks quite different to this one I was using. This one is more like a slightly wider 1t high tip. All very Mickey mouse steel. Yours is a manual by the looks and seems more substantial design

 

[Storrsy]

guy that i worked for always insisted that the digger and dumper should be the same size ie 3 ton digger 3 ton dumper 30 ton digger 30 ton dumper
always seemed to work out fine

Id agree although the beauty of the 2t is it's 1500mm wide so will go everywhere a 3t digger will go whereas the 3 ton dumpers tend to be more like 6ft wide. Less of an issue the bigger the kit all gets

 

[hiluxman]

Yours looks quite different to this one I was using. This one is more like a slightly wider 1t high tip. All very Mickey mouse steel. Yours is a manual by the looks and seems more substantial design

Yes it's a manual, hydrostatic versions were available but very very rare to find.

I think with it been a high swivel its based on a meatier chassis.

The thwaites you pictured reminds me of the old Bedford/terex hd1200. It was the same a a hd1000 but wider.