TiltyShaun
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Going fishing here
Going fishing here
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Pam off down her daughter's this morning, grouting their new conservatory floor
... she loves grouting - God knows why ? ... so got forced out the door in the torrential rain, to go find her some sponges, buckets, knee pads mixer/stir-er and a few other tools. ... was LASHING down
Got to me bench and these were empty yesterday .. I'd used 'em to clear all the leaves from me doors ....
a good 50mm of wetness in them and a few tins on the benches .. been a wild night.
got it all together and about to head back down the house when there's a hell of a crash and thought WTF was that ...
this narrowly missed Josh's van roof .... a fair lump ... well it was 'til it stopped falling
so came back up and shifted the boy's van to somewhere a bit further away from yon trees, .... there were a few more 'iffy' looking bits still clinging on, defying gravity up there ..... time to get the BIL down and stick him up in me basket again ... some pretty 'ripe' looking limbs up there, in places and easier to see now the foliage has departed
Russ rang to confirm tomorrows job mid morning, so came back up later to get me gear together for the morning's escapades .... still lashing down and had accumulated even more .....
....volumes exceeding run off capacity, again, but no where near as bad as the last time ....
Forecast says dry for the morning.... I'll believe it when I surface in the morning ..... right now it is still persisting down in a biblical manner .... Thank the ferk it ain't solid and white , like it is 20-ish miles away
... she loves grouting - God knows why ? ... so got forced out the door in the torrential rain, to go find her some sponges, buckets, knee pads mixer/stir-er and a few other tools. ... was LASHING down Got to me bench and these were empty yesterday .. I'd used 'em to clear all the leaves from me doors ....
a good 50mm of wetness in them and a few tins on the benches
.. been a wild night.got it all together and about to head back down the house when there's a hell of a crash and thought WTF was that ...
this narrowly missed Josh's van roof
.... a fair lump ... well it was 'til it stopped falling so came back up and shifted the boy's van to somewhere a bit further away from yon trees, .... there were a few more 'iffy' looking bits still clinging on, defying gravity up there
..... time to get the BIL down and stick him up in me basket again ... some pretty 'ripe' looking limbs up there, in places and easier to see now the foliage has departed Russ rang to confirm tomorrows job mid morning, so came back up later to get me gear together for the morning's escapades .... still lashing down and had accumulated even more .....
....volumes exceeding run off capacity, again,
but no where near as bad as the last time .... Forecast says dry for the morning
.... I'll believe it when I surface in the morning ..... right now it is still persisting down in a biblical manner .... Thank the ferk it ain't solid and white , like it is 20-ish miles away
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
TiltyShaun
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Hopefully the pool water is cleaner!you extended yer pool have you Shaun??
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
well today has been 'interesting'
On site for eight ... signed in and says to security, "Russ round the back already is he?"
"nope .. not arrived yet "
Odd ... he's never late
Parked up and wandered back round the front to their smoko area to wait for Russ
half eight this red Liebherr 30t AT rolls down the entry ramp to security ... WTF ..... didn't tell me I was rigging for anyone else today
Out clambers 6'6" of Russel .. " Where's yer Lieb mate ? "
" Loooooooong story Gra ... this is a 'loaner' "
So he trundles round the back and I walk back around, sort a fork lift to shift the crud, some idiot had dumped there yet again and get Russ into spot.
jacked her up .... knocked her off to switch over to 'upstairs' .... and the b'stard wouldn't start ... " 'Swhy I was late Gra ... had to give it the booster this morning ... ****ing thing!.... got the jump leads in the locker .. see if you can blag a forklift "
Maintenance guys appear with a truck ... battery buried in the guts ... eventually get it connected up to the battery we suspected had died ... and the bloody FLT won't start .... driver doing all sorts to it ... "put the hand brake on drive .. it's bound to have a lock out " " Oh aye" and we were in business.
Truck pulls up, after they'd woken the driver up, who'd been here since yesterday at 6.00 am ... Italian reg. .... this is going to be fun
" Lei parla inglese? " .... nope " Parlez francais? " ... Nope " Sprechen ze deutche? " Noooope ... "we'm buggered guys, I'm clean out of lingos"
So showed him where we wanted him and left him to it was close enough
Dropped a tonne of air receiver into spot, whilst the gathered throng unstrapped and removed all the packing and cribbing coach screws ... dropped the cat head and stuck another fall on, for the supposedly 6.5t 'BIG' bit, slung the spreaders and dropped it all into place over the lighter load ready to take it ... and find the lift points are not as per spec..... 20 minute hunt in their workshop, for some dinky shackles to make a connection 'tween ours and these pissy little lift points and it's up and away ... into position.
45 minutes later ... they've got all the mastic seal around the top edge of the first half of the cooler unit .... I'd gotten the 'lump' (which was half the weight of what we'd been told it was) off the truck, so's the driver could get away ..
lift points on this were utter crap
and we're ready to drop it on top of t'other half ...
Little 'pep' talk with the guys, ... who'd made dropping the first half in place, bloody hard work, by pushing and shoving, trying to get it right ... instead of just leaving me an' Russ put it dead on ....
" Just let us put it exactly where you want it with the machine ... then you can guide the last few inches onto the seals "
POP with some co-operation .... never ceases to amaze me WTF folks insist on trying to drag a load into the spot they want it, when the M/c'll do it first time, in the right hands ... Russ is one smoooooooooooooooth operator - a pleasure to work with ... few signals and it's job done
De-rigged the lift, Russ dropped his ballast, we dropped the spreaders, etc. on his deck and wrapped her up .... at which point yer's gotta knock it off and change back to 'downstairs' control ...... and you guessed it ... Must have a cell gone down ... any deader and they'd have had rigormortis
Pulled the P38 round ... quicker and easier than faffing with the FLT again.. leads on and she's up first flick ... everything stowed and I'm in Aldi, in Aber by 11.30 picking up some spuds an' milk .... as per text about ten o'clock, from Pam
Nice work if you can get it
Russ says he could keep me busy 3-4 days a week, if I want it
was I glad to see it'd stopped persisting down this morning ... went kitted for a wetting though .. just in case
On site for eight ... signed in and says to security, "Russ round the back already is he?"
"nope .. not arrived yet "
Odd ... he's never late
Parked up and wandered back round the front to their smoko area to wait for Russ
half eight this red Liebherr 30t AT rolls down the entry ramp to security ... WTF
..... didn't tell me I was rigging for anyone else today Out clambers 6'6" of Russel .. " Where's yer Lieb mate ? "
" Loooooooong story Gra ... this is a 'loaner' "
So he trundles round the back and I walk back around, sort a fork lift to shift the crud, some idiot had dumped there yet again and get Russ into spot.
jacked her up .... knocked her off to switch over to 'upstairs' .... and the b'stard wouldn't start ... " 'Swhy I was late Gra ... had to give it the booster this morning ... ****ing thing!
.... got the jump leads in the locker .. see if you can blag a forklift " Maintenance guys appear with a truck ... battery buried in the guts ... eventually get it connected up to the battery we suspected had died ... and the bloody FLT won't start .... driver doing all sorts to it ... "put the hand brake on drive .. it's bound to have a lock out " " Oh aye
" and we were in business.Truck pulls up, after they'd woken the driver up, who'd been here since yesterday at 6.00 am ... Italian reg. .... this is going to be fun
" Lei parla inglese? " .... nope
" Parlez francais? " ... Nope " Sprechen ze deutche? " Noooope ... "we'm buggered guys, I'm clean out of lingos"So showed him where we wanted him and left him to it
was close enough Dropped a tonne of air receiver into spot, whilst the gathered throng unstrapped and removed all the packing and cribbing coach screws ... dropped the cat head and stuck another fall on, for the supposedly 6.5t 'BIG' bit, slung the spreaders and dropped it all into place over the lighter load ready to take it ... and find the lift points are not as per spec.
.... 20 minute hunt in their workshop, for some dinky shackles to make a connection 'tween ours and these pissy little lift points and it's up and away ... into position.45 minutes later ... they've got all the mastic seal around the top edge of the first half of the cooler unit .... I'd gotten the 'lump' (which was half the weight of what we'd been told it was) off the truck, so's the driver could get away ..
lift points on this were utter crap
and we're ready to drop it on top of t'other half ...
Little 'pep' talk with the guys,
... who'd made dropping the first half in place, bloody hard work, by pushing and shoving, trying to get it right ... instead of just leaving me an' Russ put it dead on ...." Just let us put it exactly where you want it with the machine ... then you can guide the last few inches onto the seals "
POP with some co-operation .... never ceases to amaze me WTF folks insist on trying to drag a load into the spot they want it, when the M/c'll do it first time, in the right hands ... Russ is one smoooooooooooooooth operator - a pleasure to work with ... few signals and it's job done
De-rigged the lift, Russ dropped his ballast, we dropped the spreaders, etc. on his deck and wrapped her up .... at which point yer's gotta knock it off and change back to 'downstairs' control ...... and you guessed it ... Must have a cell gone down ... any deader and they'd have had rigormortis
Pulled the P38 round ... quicker and easier than faffing with the FLT again
.. leads on and she's up first flick ... everything stowed and I'm in Aldi, in Aber by 11.30 picking up some spuds an' milk .... as per text about ten o'clock, from Pam Nice work if you can get it
Russ says he could keep me busy 3-4 days a week, if I want it
was I glad to see it'd stopped persisting down this morning ... went kitted for a wetting though .. just in case
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diggerjones
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Funny what you say about people pushing and shoving stuff when hanging. Obviously i shouldn't have stuff hanging off a digger but it happens
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
yeh it's even more annoying when you're 'in the seat'
... you've no idea WTF'll happen next when they'm trying to shove it into spot all it needs is a steadying hand .... and that IS ALL
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
forgot to say why Russ was in the loaner this morning .... out on a job wed.s and his Scania based Lieb has been 'sort of playing up' for a few days ... Scania'd been out to him and changed a few sensors on the motor earlier in the week ... at significant cost ... then wed.s it went into limp .. half way up Dinmore Hill ... a seeeerious hill ... the truck he'd loaded with 25t of injection moulder, behind him nearly ran up his arse when he just stopped
fitter came out and plugged his lap top in, got it up enough to limp it into a lay by and carried on faffing ...
got all the parameters recalibrated ... leaned across to unplug it, touched the ECU and it all crashed again ...
so did it all again and drove the crane to the destination on the lap top ... finished the unload job, then got it to Scania's workshops in Ross (I think) and it's sat awaiting £2.5k's worth of ECU and another 500 quidsworth of keys .. coded to the ECU and can't re-code the existing ones without some series of numbers that Russ is trying to track down from Liebherr
the joys of modern diesels
fitter came out and plugged his lap top in, got it up enough to limp it into a lay by and carried on faffing ...
got all the parameters recalibrated ... leaned across to unplug it, touched the ECU and it all crashed again
...so did it all again and drove the crane to the destination on the lap top ... finished the unload job, then got it to Scania's workshops in Ross (I think) and it's sat awaiting £2.5k's worth of ECU and another 500 quidsworth of keys .. coded to the ECU and can't re-code the existing ones without some series of numbers that Russ is trying to track down from Liebherr
the joys of modern diesels
J
Jimoz
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Don't think my exploits yesterday were quite as safe. Tight site and my mate couldn't get square on to where trusses had been dropped or the scaffold. I slung him up and guided him so halfway point was over the handrail. Only a baby load maybe 200kg. What do you think @V8Druid 1 out of 10?
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
that pack of trusses was a hell of a lot more than 200kgs
... 'spect they're 80-90 ks eachtele handlers are such awkward things to use, especially on tight sites .. shorter slings and a single slinging point, with a swivel at the forks would've helped you a lot .... job done though ... no-one got hurt and no disasters so it has to be a result
TiltyShaun
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Just put an order on for some trusses that are 6m span 35 ref pitch. Told they are 38kgs each.
J
Jimoz
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These were about 5m span and 35 pitch I think. Didn't check pitch as no loose cutting to do. Ea one would of only weighed 25-30kg think there was 10no. so more like 300kg.
Yeh slings were a bit long weren't they. Thought I was doing to right thing slinging at 2 points but live and learn!
Yeh slings were a bit long weren't they. Thought I was doing to right thing slinging at 2 points but live and learn!
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
double lift point gives you no ability to swivel them around , to thread them between obstacles .... but does make them stay put, in line/across your forks.
biggest down fall with tele handlers is their lack of ability to slew, even a few degrees.
Can understand why people use them in preference to craning ... shear cost .... but craning a roof on, with a good operator and some one on the deck who can sling 'em right makes a huge difference to the speed a roof can go on
... main problem these days is the shear cost of a day's hire .... and that is down to all the BS bollox that has to be in place, before you leave the yard, let alone get set up, for what is a bloody simple operation, in the right hands
J
Jimoz
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Yeh cranes much better put a few roofs on with em. The newer ones i've had operator up on scaffold with you helming position them with his remote control round his waist. You are right though they cost a fortune but suppose the machines are a big investment.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
that'd've been a loader crane then (Hiab type thing) ... there aren't many mobiles that'd do that
an experienced mobile op. would have them ready to swing in, before you'd got the last one fixed
,.... with a good bloke on the deck slinging, they'd be waiting on the chippies every time ..... it's rare you see a muppet in the seat of a smaller mobile ... they wouldn't last long .... if they even managed to get in there in the first placeI've craned hundreds of roofs an' they don't take long ... no dramas ... an' everyone goes home safe
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
also done a few like this .... not as big, but did 5 detached houses in one day on one site ... built with ease on the deck ... pull up, set up and up they went .... POP doddle
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
my little Rapier with a local builder on an extension ... day's work
J
Jimoz
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That building on the floor looks wicked how would you sling and hold them all together. Surely with h&s that is the future suppose not every site has room to build at ground level
J
Jimoz
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It was a hiab type control but it was a proper crane too. Not as in a crane on a flatbed this was soley a lorry with a crane fixed boom which extends not fold out jobby. Think it was on a 7.5t chassis. Sure the driver said about 200k worth if that sounds right? He says they are becoming popular
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
had a ridge beam built into it, to lift it with and spread the loads .... IIRC was built in front of each house and then just picked up and derricked out ... did it with a TMS300 Grove ... plenty of capacity ... it was one of the UK majors at the time, Wimpey I think ... was a long time ago ... timber frame houses and up the valleys, Bargoed way.
I remember it well
.... especially as I'd stopped and asked a milkman for directions .. before sat nav ... sent me up the steepest ****ing hill I've ever been up with 30 odd tons of 8 leg Grove .... was in crawler by the time I got to the top ... and praying came straight out the T junction and was NOT stopping for anything (was 7 am though) ..... never ask a bloody milkman for directions, if you're driving anything bigger than he is Footer block 1