V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
nope
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
usually the galvers do the powder coat finish too ..... looks to have still been 'spelter' (galv dross) in places, which should have been fettled off before getting powder coated ..... if it was mine ..... it would be rejected as substandard .. end of
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rossandson
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Alternatively have you considered an automatic bollard? I appreciate doesn’t stop people walking in but stops vehicles or machines going in or out. Just an idea. 
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DaveDCB
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I agree, not acceptable an finish! That said, they should of probably mentioned before taking in the job that you won’t get a perfect finish with powder coat over galv.
Worse so is the chips!
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Jimoz
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That chip is a funny one. The gate came straight from the powder coating place to here, the guy went to fetch it. Is it a chip after paint or is the finish just that piss poor?
I'll have to tell him it needs a good looking at before any dollar is parted with. Is it sortable?
I'll have to tell him it needs a good looking at before any dollar is parted with. Is it sortable?
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Jimoz
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This bloke came recommended too. I had a slightly cheaper quote but this guy has done a few around here. I'm wondering though if as has been warned elsewhere I've paid too little. This was close to half the cost I was originally getting quoted.
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Jimoz
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V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
the 'chip' is almost certainly a lump of spelter, which has come away .. bare steel visible .. so no galv there at all BTLs ... it will forever give problems.
rectifying it all is not going to be an easy fix
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
not good .. hasn't even ground the tube joint welds off tidily in the first place
...the galvers would be at fault here really, with the surface finish .. as said the galvers and the powder coaters are usually one and the same ... their fettlers have not done their job and neither have the tank guys, allowing spelter to be 'included' in the surface finish .... TBH wants completely re-doing and should be at the galver's / powder coater's expense
once sent a small one piece fabricated stair flight for galv ... usual guys and all vented / drained in the right places ..... came back in a hell of a mess, with a pool of zinc 2" thick, in one corner ... total negligence .. they ended up paying for us to make a new flight and another company galving it ... at a premium as it was an urgent job anyway and speed costs
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Jimoz
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Cheers druid for the advice. They're here now cracking on with it. Nothing that can be done about it yet so I'll let them get finished so I have a working gate first. Will there deffo be no galv on those chips?
Do you think at just over 3k I've stolen this or fair money? It's around 4.5m and 1.2m ish high
Do you think at just over 3k I've stolen this or fair money? It's around 4.5m and 1.2m ish high
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
looks to be bare steel here ..... and rusty at that
sadly there is only one cure for that
If it weren't for the issues, I'd say you've had a fair deal TBH .. lot of work for the money .... just a pity the coaters have made such a balls of their part in the story ... there is regulatory body for them
that'd be worth consulting with ... take some good clear pix of all of your concerns and email them through for an opinion| Dr Desmond Makepeace MICorr Technical Executive |
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Jimoz
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Don't think I'll be "making peace" if I grass them up ha! Better see what the man thinks about it before I go sending emails. It's not him that galvs or coats so he may be not to bothered about throwing it back to them!? Will those spots always give problems flaking etc?
Yeh I was happy with the price never chiseled him down but just want to make sure I'm not expecting champagne on lemonade budget?
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Monkeybusiness
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Could the stairs not have been chucked back in the zinc tank to melt off the poor galv and re-coat, or does it not work like that?not good .. hasn't even ground the tube joint welds off tidily in the first place
the galvers would be at fault here really, with the surface finish .. as said the galvers and the powder coaters are usually one and the same ... their fettlers have not done their job and neither have the tank guys, allowing spelter to be 'included' in the surface finish .... TBH wants completely re-doing and should be at the galver's / powder coater's expense
once sent a small one piece fabricated stair flight for galv ... usual guys and all vented / drained in the right places ..... came back in a hell of a mess, with a pool of zinc 2" thick, in one corner ... total negligence .. they ended up paying for us to make a new flight and another company galving it ... at a premium as it was an urgent job anyway and speed costs
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
was my Q too MB ... but'd need too long in the bath and run the risk of totally distorting the fabrication ... a 2" chunk of zinc'd take a while to melt
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