4x4 pickups or iveco's that will tow 3.5 ton

[Brendan]

I had a 2004 lwb. It was trouble free for 4 years till the head gasket went. I think it was shifting 40ton of muck ,2.7t loads, in the middle summer with the Aircon on that did it.
What sub £10,000 4x4 single cab pickup has the the best towing capacity? Other than defender

It's a struggle to get anything decent these days, with the over inflated prices there might be a handful floating about that will tow 3.5t, years wise....
2014 onwards the ranger dependant on engine and rear axle ratio.
Dmax around 2013 not sure if all the range or model dependant
Navara around 2015 not sure if all models or if they do a single cab

Not sure if you could pick up a discovery commercial for that price? Would be far more comfortable than a defender

 

[Storrsy]

It's a struggle to get anything decent these days, with the over inflated prices there might be a handful floating about that will tow 3.5t, years wise....
2014 onwards the ranger dependant on engine and rear axle ratio.
Dmax around 2013 not sure if all the range or model dependant
Navara around 2015 not sure if all models or if they do a single cab

Not sure if you could pick up a discovery commercial for that price? Would be far more comfortable than a defender

This is the trouble- I've been looking for a few years to replace my aging defender and disco with something a bit more presentable and possibly less garage time (although in their credit they haven't been too bad given the s**t I subject them to and they're 25 yrs old).
In the end I decided I wasn't happy payi g £15-£20k for a 5 year old pickup with a tiny engine and creeping mileage. So will try the shogun which I got for £6k- if it doesn't work out it will be back to the old disco!
Mate bought a higher mileage disco 4 recently- very tidy cosmetically but it's been a disaster- I know they're a gamble- I think Shogun will be more reliable

 

[Russell]

To be honest I had no issue towing with the shogun and the newer one had another 30hp. To be fair I was only pulling 2.5 ton.
Pickups seam a lot of money to me whatever age you go for.
£15000 for 100,000 miles , £50k new or £5000 for a turd.

 

[doobin]

To be honest I had no issue towing with the shogun and the newer one had another 30hp. To be fair I was only pulling 2.5 ton.
Pickups seam a lot of money to me whatever age you go for.
£15000 for 100,000 miles , £50k new or £5000 for a turd.

Pre 2012 Ford rangers are a good truck. Mazda underneath. Not plated to 3.5t towing though.
This was £10k with under 50k miles

 

[Storrsy]

Pre 2012 Ford rangers are a good truck. Mazda underneath. Not plated to 3.5t towing though.
This was £10k with under 50k miles

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Nice tidy Tipper- recon that was a good find

 

[doobin]

Nice tidy Tipper- recon that was a good find

Putting her to work properly today.

 

[Russell]

What will it tow?
Train weight?

 

[doobin]

What will it tow?
Train weight?

3000kg I think. Added some airbags yesterday so it will be comfortable with that, or a bit more....

 

[Shovelhands]

3000kg I think. Added some airbags yesterday so it will be comfortable with that, or a bit more....

Was that an air bag kit or something you’ve put together?

 

[doobin]

Was that an air bag kit or something you’ve put together?

Airbag kit from Milner. Needed a bit of modification though, nothing major. Got one on both Rangers, it totally transforms them. Takes all the bob and sway out of it with a trailer behind.

 

[V8Druid]

Airbag kit from Milner. Needed a bit of modification though, nothing major. Got one on both Rangers, it totally transforms them. Takes all the bob and sway out of it with a trailer behind.

what do you do for air to keep 'em filled ?

 

[doobin]

what do you do for air to keep 'em filled ?

Ran the pipe to the cab and have a 12v compressor in the alcove under the radio.

 

[Shovelhands]

Airbag kit from Milner. Needed a bit of modification though, nothing major. Got one on both Rangers, it totally transforms them. Takes all the bob and sway out of it with a trailer behind.

Thinking of putting air on my old Navara, either that or it needs new springs.

 

[V8Druid]

Ran the pipe to the cab and have a 12v compressor in the alcove under the radio.

compressor part of the kit or summat you had? How do you regulate pressure, or do you just stuff it in

 

[doobin]

compressor part of the kit or summat you had? How do you regulate pressure, or do you just stuff it in

Cheap 12v compressor off eBay, it has a gauge built in.

 

[Brendan]

I bought the cheap version of the air bags for mine, I have a portable Milwaukee compressor so weren't too keen on paying something like an extra 500+ for the compressor and dials.
I have two valves mounted near the tow bar and just adjust as when needed. Not as fancy as just pressing button to pump and a release to deflate but does me. Technically I remember right I think that internal display has to be out of drivers reach for some reason.

On the 2012+ the air bags and suitable towbar and ball will see the gtw raised from 6t to 7t with appropriate fee and paperwork done

 

[doobin]

I bought the cheap version of the air bags for mine, I have a portable Milwaukee compressor so weren't too keen on paying something like an extra 500+ for the compressor and dials.
I have two valves mounted near the tow bar and just adjust as when needed. Not as fancy as just pressing button to pump and a release to deflate but does me. Technically I remember right I think that internal display has to be out of drivers reach for some reason.

On the 2012+ the air bags and suitable towbar and ball will see the gtw raised from 6t to 7t with appropriate fee and paperwork done

Does the Milwaukee auto shut off at a set pressure, and if so do you have to tell it the pressure every time?

 

[GazCro]

I bought the cheap version of the air bags for mine, I have a portable Milwaukee compressor so weren't too keen on paying something like an extra 500+ for the compressor and dials.
I have two valves mounted near the tow bar and just adjust as when needed. Not as fancy as just pressing button to pump and a release to deflate but does me. Technically I remember right I think that internal display has to be out of drivers reach for some reason.

On the 2012+ the air bags and suitable towbar and ball will see the gtw raised from 6t to 7t with appropriate fee and paperwork done

I'm assuming airbag setup as part of a train weight/towing capacity increase would need to be an automated system though, not just a blow them up and let them down as you see fit?
It wouldn't be difficult if you're connecting up to an onboard compressor to run it into a small tank and fit a levelling valve and automate the job.

 

[V8Druid]

I'm assuming airbag setup as part of a train weight/towing capacity increase would need to be an automated system though, not just a blow them up and let them down as you see fit?
It wouldn't be difficult if you're connecting up to an onboard compressor to run it into a small tank and fit a levelling valve and automate the job.

much like the P38's leveling/ride height system on axle travel sensors ... would wanna be a mechanical system though ........ **** all the electronics that has for control in the EAS

 

[Brendan]

Does the Milwaukee auto shut off at a set pressure, and if so do you have to tell it the pressure every time?

It's the M12 version, you just set the pressure and it auto switches off. It's pretty good manages to pump the tipper trailer tyres to 90 psi ok. It's fairly small