4x4 pickups or iveco's that will tow 3.5 ton

[Jimoz]

Tool theft must not be as bad either as those are all rammed to the hilt would take a fair few hours a week loading and unloading

No way is tool theft a significant issue in oz. A lot of trades use a box trailer behind a pick up or car. My first boss did over there. Just shows how low trust a society we are cant even transport tools round in a trailer because it would just be a pikey magnet.

 

[6feetdown]

No way is tool theft a significant issue in oz. A lot of trades use a box trailer behind a pick up or car. My first boss did over there. Just shows how low trust a society we are cant even transport tools round in a trailer because it would just be a pikey magnet.

Not just them plenty of other low life too

 

[Brendan]

No way is tool theft a significant issue in oz. A lot of trades use a box trailer behind a pick up or car. My first boss did over there. Just shows how low trust a society we are cant even transport tools round in a trailer because it would just be a pikey magnet.

Can't even leave cheap tools on the back of a tipper, a large amount of pickups have their spare wheels nicked let alone other kit.
Too many thieving scrotes over here with little to no worry of getting caught and even if they do the penalties are pathetic. Got back yesterday and looks like neighbour has been scammed by some of travellers who "bought" his van. Unless the money clears he has been done and foolishly let the vehicle go before funds fully cleared, put all his details in the banking app and it said transferred and he stupidly didn't check his own bank to check. It's a euros to UK transfer so he praying the money clears in a couple of days

 

[Lancs Lad]

I do think that regulations around weight limits should be relaxed, izuzu grafter in japan is a 5t gross weight vehicle, in the UK the vehicle is the same other than the transmission and smaller brake discs, and of course plated at 3.5T to conform to UK regs. It would be much safer if we had the japanese version over here as people will inevitability over load given the size of the pickup bed.

They'll need to do something as with the onslaught of elecshitification...payloads are going to tank otherwise. Bad enough now before you had for hundred kg of batts.
Along the lines of the 4.25 thing etc.

 

[Maxus]

Anyone ever ran a defender 130 td5 tipper? I realise it's not going to be a luxurious experience, but is there a better option in terms of utility? Low ratio, 4x4, 7T GTW and won't depreciate. I've seen one for 13k with a galvanised chassis that I'm tempted by, am I mad?

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Anyone ever ran a defender 130 td5 tipper? I realise it's not going to be a luxurious experience, but is there a better option in terms of utility? Low ratio, 4x4, 7T GTW and won't depreciate. I've seen one for 13k with a galvanised chassis that I'm tempted by, am I mad?

If it’s been built up properly and the bulkhead is sound then I don’t think you can go far wrong really.

 

[Storrsy]

Anyone ever ran a defender 130 td5 tipper? I realise it's not going to be a luxurious experience, but is there a better option in terms of utility? Low ratio, 4x4, 7T GTW and won't depreciate. I've seen one for 13k with a galvanised chassis that I'm tempted by, am I mad?

Lots to love about a setup like that, minimal emission bull. Plenty of parts and probably won't loose much on it.

 

[Smiffy]

Anyone ever ran a defender 130 td5 tipper? I realise it's not going to be a luxurious experience, but is there a better option in terms of utility? Low ratio, 4x4, 7T GTW and won't depreciate. I've seen one for 13k with a galvanised chassis that I'm tempted by, am I mad?

A firm I worked for had a 110 tipper.
The 130 has a huge turning circle but the 110 is a tad short really. It had 250000 miles and had been rolled twice but still soldiered on. I am 6ft5 and had no problem driving it, and must say of all the work vehicles I have driven it was the only one that has ever put a smile on my face to drive.

 

[Maxus]

Damn I might just have to buy it

 

[Furniss]

Prob a good truck when its running,I loved my TD5 but seemed to spend as much time spannering as using it, much easier life with the Nissan Atleon 3.5t that followed it.

be looking to step down in size in 2 years and will have same dilemma, tow 3.5t at times but then use as daily transport and bike transporter ... tricky

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Damn I might just have to buy it

If you have previous Landy experience then you’ll obviously know what you are in for.
If not, be ready for a lack of seat adjustment (the truck-cabs have compromised range to recline the seat) and no room for your right elbow. And loaded it will wallow around like a boat.
The TD5 is arguably the best engine Land Rover fitted, and can be easily tuned for a bit more power if necessary, but it does need reving a bit harder than might feel normal, especially when pulling away loaded.
They are ace though, and can be kept going indefinitely.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Prob a good truck when its running,I loved my TD5 but seemed to spend as much time spannering as using it, much easier life with the Nissan Atleon 3.5t that followed it.

be looking to step down in size in 2 years and will have same dilemma, tow 3.5t at times but then use as daily transport and bike transporter ... tricky

Rear wheel drive MAN TGE auto. Job done.

 

[Furniss]

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Rear wheel drive MAN TGE auto. Job done.

I will have a look

Any years / models to avoid or favour?

 

[Monkeybusiness]

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I will have a look

Any years / models to avoid or favour?

Not sure tbh. It’s only the rear wheel drive that can legally tow 3.5 tonnes. Originally they were available as 180bhp, the new ones are 160bhp maximum because of something to do with emissions/the way one of the manifolds fits with the engine fitted longitudinally apparently (although they reckon torque is the same so drives equally well).
The manual versions have a fairly high first gear so not as good for pulling away when heavy towing.
VW Crafter is the same van.

 

[Monkeybusiness]

Anyone ever ran a defender 130 td5 tipper? I realise it's not going to be a luxurious experience, but is there a better option in terms of utility? Low ratio, 4x4, 7T GTW and won't depreciate. I've seen one for 13k with a galvanised chassis that I'm tempted by, am I mad?

Just be certain it is a 3500kg gross weight vehicle too - if it’s been converted from a 110 it might only be 3050kg on the chassis plate.

 

[Maxus]

If you have previous Landy experience then you’ll obviously know what you are in for.
If not, be ready for a lack of seat adjustment (the truck-cabs have compromised range to recline the seat) and no room for your right elbow. And loaded it will wallow around like a boat.
The TD5 is arguably the best engine Land Rover fitted, and can be easily tuned for a bit more power if necessary, but it does need reving a bit harder than might feel normal, especially when pulling away loaded.
They are ace though, and can be kept going indefinitely.

I've driven a couple of defenders, a 110 td5, it was fine. I did once drive a battered old 110 with a NA 4 cylinder diesel - that was absolutely shocking to drive, the gear stick was so vauge and loose and the engine so woefully underpowered, it was nigh on impossible to tell what gear I was in, or even if I was in gear to be honest! And the steering and the braking?... Let's just say my life flashed before my eyes on that test drive

 

[William127]

Anyone ever ran a defender 130 td5 tipper? I realise it's not going to be a luxurious experience, but is there a better option in terms of utility? Low ratio, 4x4, 7T GTW and won't depreciate. I've seen one for 13k with a galvanised chassis that I'm tempted by, am I mad?

I have, its a great vehicle but a Defender will always be a defender. You either love it or you hate it.
The turning circle is terrible from factory, but my one with wheel spacers and the stops wound out was better than a standard 110.
Get it tuned for torque and if its got decent suspension, with rear helpers, its a very stable tow truck.

 

[Furniss]

Those Mans look smart and would be good compromise for a bit of everything, although when last having a bit of a victor meldrew moment about adblue and sensors I swore going forward we would only buy véhicules I could spanner, and those man trucks will be sensor/adblue/pdf everything , so that leaves you with things like defenders I guess..... yikes

 

[Smiffy]

Those Mans look smart and would be good compromise for a bit of everything, although when last having a bit of a victor meldrew moment about adblue and sensors I swore going forward we would only buy véhicules I could spanner, and those man trucks will be sensor/adblue/pdf everything , so that leaves you with things like defenders I guess..... yikes

Old ivecos will tow 3.5t and be fixable. Although a tad rusty now. Other options would be landcruiser or gwagon ( but they are only about 85hp in working clothes) or American pickup.

 

[hiluxman]

I'm going older and fixable...the grief I've had over the last 10 or so years has always come down to emissions shite. I've no intrest in ever buying these new things, wet belts, cameras checking your eyes, headlight needs coding in ect ect.