V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
anyone know if this is true or not ? " Did you know that 25 per cent of your electricity bill is entirely made up of punitive green taxes to subsidise unreliable wind and solar? "
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Lancs Lad
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Feels like it ...
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
interesting ......
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Ocean Battery stores renewable energy at the bottom of the sea
As useful as renewable energy sources are, they need to be backed up by storage systems that hold energy for times when the Sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing. Ocean Battery is a new design for an energy storage system that functions a bit like a hydroelectric dam at the bottom of the sea.
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Now this looks more promisinginteresting ......
Ocean Battery stores renewable energy at the bottom of the sea
As useful as renewable energy sources are, they need to be backed up by storage systems that hold energy for times when the Sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing. Ocean Battery is a new design for an energy storage system that functions a bit like a hydroelectric dam at the bottom of the sea.
JD450A
Feral as Fk 🐾
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
not strictly leccy variety, per se, but anyone shed any light on this ???
" CALL FOR EXEMPTION FROM NEW TRANSPORT REGULATION PROPOSALS
With a new bill currently in consultation on how to regulate vehicle standards in the future that includes anti-tampering laws, the Historic & Classic Vehicles Alliance (HCVA) have written a response expressing their concerns along with some requests for the Government to consider.
The ‘Future of Transport’ consultation focused on supporting the automotive industry and to ensure that transport regulations are fit for the future, with proposals to enable the Government to better prevent harmful tampering with vehicle emission control systems.
The bill would allow the Government the tools they need to regulate and control vehicle standards without having to go through the long process it does currently. While this is a good thing as it aims to make roads safer and better for everyone, the HCVA want to make sure that they don’t overlook the implications of this new bill on historic and classic vehicles. As part of their response, the HCVA have requested three things.
The first is the exclusion of historic and classic vehicles from the new rules, with the rules only applying to new cars and not cars already on the road. They have also asked that any existing garages, engineers and owners as well as businesses in the sector are exempt from a requirement to enforce the new rules on historic vehicles.
The new bill would also allow any further changes to be made in the future without official guidance or secondary legislation, meaning that a discussion in Parliament can be avoided if there are any challenges. The HVCA have asked for the classic and historic vehicle sector to be safeguarded from these powers. This would mean that any changes that may hurt classic vehicles would need to go back to Parliament for a debate and vote.
The new bill also includes proposed ban on tampering. The ban aims to make it illegal to alter cars in any way that would impact the environment, road safety or security. It’s another positive step for improving our roads but it could have some implications for classic vehicle owners too. The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market, so the HVCA has asked that the Government consider a different way to solve the tampering issue or put in exclusions for the classic and historic vehicle sector.
The HCVA say they will continue to keep a close eye on the situation. Find out more about their response to the proposed bill on their website. "
So WTF are they trying to sneak through now, under cover of all that is currently going on/not being reported on ?????
" ...The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market,.... " .... additional lighting springs instantly to mind, roll bars, bull bars, tow bars??, side steps, roof racks, hard tops, snorkel kits, suspension lifts/alterations/upgrades, wheels/tyres! ... anything that does not arrive as it leaves the factory
" CALL FOR EXEMPTION FROM NEW TRANSPORT REGULATION PROPOSALS
With a new bill currently in consultation on how to regulate vehicle standards in the future that includes anti-tampering laws, the Historic & Classic Vehicles Alliance (HCVA) have written a response expressing their concerns along with some requests for the Government to consider.
The ‘Future of Transport’ consultation focused on supporting the automotive industry and to ensure that transport regulations are fit for the future, with proposals to enable the Government to better prevent harmful tampering with vehicle emission control systems.
The bill would allow the Government the tools they need to regulate and control vehicle standards without having to go through the long process it does currently. While this is a good thing as it aims to make roads safer and better for everyone, the HCVA want to make sure that they don’t overlook the implications of this new bill on historic and classic vehicles. As part of their response, the HCVA have requested three things.
The first is the exclusion of historic and classic vehicles from the new rules, with the rules only applying to new cars and not cars already on the road. They have also asked that any existing garages, engineers and owners as well as businesses in the sector are exempt from a requirement to enforce the new rules on historic vehicles.
The new bill would also allow any further changes to be made in the future without official guidance or secondary legislation, meaning that a discussion in Parliament can be avoided if there are any challenges. The HVCA have asked for the classic and historic vehicle sector to be safeguarded from these powers. This would mean that any changes that may hurt classic vehicles would need to go back to Parliament for a debate and vote.
The new bill also includes proposed ban on tampering. The ban aims to make it illegal to alter cars in any way that would impact the environment, road safety or security. It’s another positive step for improving our roads but it could have some implications for classic vehicle owners too. The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market, so the HVCA has asked that the Government consider a different way to solve the tampering issue or put in exclusions for the classic and historic vehicle sector.
The HCVA say they will continue to keep a close eye on the situation. Find out more about their response to the proposed bill on their website. "
So WTF are they trying to sneak through now, under cover of all that is currently going on/not being reported on ?????
" ...The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market,.... " .... additional lighting springs instantly to mind, roll bars, bull bars, tow bars??
, side steps, roof racks, hard tops, snorkel kits, suspension lifts/alterations/upgrades, wheels/tyres! ... anything that does not arrive as it leaves the factory
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GazCro
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I think it's one of those changes such sounds majorly drastic but doesn't really change that much as it already exists just isn't enforced. I think the worry would be if it is to become enforced. I think there is going to be changes to emissions regs covering remaps egr deletes dpf removal etc.not strictly leccy variety, per se, but anyone shed any light on this ???
" CALL FOR EXEMPTION FROM NEW TRANSPORT REGULATION PROPOSALS
With a new bill currently in consultation on how to regulate vehicle standards in the future that includes anti-tampering laws, the Historic & Classic Vehicles Alliance (HCVA) have written a response expressing their concerns along with some requests for the Government to consider.
The ‘Future of Transport’ consultation focused on supporting the automotive industry and to ensure that transport regulations are fit for the future, with proposals to enable the Government to better prevent harmful tampering with vehicle emission control systems.
The bill would allow the Government the tools they need to regulate and control vehicle standards without having to go through the long process it does currently. While this is a good thing as it aims to make roads safer and better for everyone, the HCVA want to make sure that they don’t overlook the implications of this new bill on historic and classic vehicles. As part of their response, the HCVA have requested three things.
The first is the exclusion of historic and classic vehicles from the new rules, with the rules only applying to new cars and not cars already on the road. They have also asked that any existing garages, engineers and owners as well as businesses in the sector are exempt from a requirement to enforce the new rules on historic vehicles.
The new bill would also allow any further changes to be made in the future without official guidance or secondary legislation, meaning that a discussion in Parliament can be avoided if there are any challenges. The HVCA have asked for the classic and historic vehicle sector to be safeguarded from these powers. This would mean that any changes that may hurt classic vehicles would need to go back to Parliament for a debate and vote.
The new bill also includes proposed ban on tampering. The ban aims to make it illegal to alter cars in any way that would impact the environment, road safety or security. It’s another positive step for improving our roads but it could have some implications for classic vehicle owners too. The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market, so the HVCA has asked that the Government consider a different way to solve the tampering issue or put in exclusions for the classic and historic vehicle sector.
The HCVA say they will continue to keep a close eye on the situation. Find out more about their response to the proposed bill on their website. "
So WTF are they trying to sneak through now, under cover of all that is currently going on/not being reported on ?????
" ...The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market,.... " .... additional lighting springs instantly to mind, roll bars, bull bars, tow bars??
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
think it's a bit more than that Gaz " The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market, " consider uprating wheels and tyres to suit applications ... if they'm not std it would become illegal ... air suspension kits?? !!
.. HD springs, polybush kits ?????
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Smiffy
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not strictly leccy variety, per se, but anyone shed any light on this ???
" CALL FOR EXEMPTION FROM NEW TRANSPORT REGULATION PROPOSALS
With a new bill currently in consultation on how to regulate vehicle standards in the future that includes anti-tampering laws, the Historic & Classic Vehicles Alliance (HCVA) have written a response expressing their concerns along with some requests for the Government to consider.
The ‘Future of Transport’ consultation focused on supporting the automotive industry and to ensure that transport regulations are fit for the future, with proposals to enable the Government to better prevent harmful tampering with vehicle emission control systems.
The bill would allow the Government the tools they need to regulate and control vehicle standards without having to go through the long process it does currently. While this is a good thing as it aims to make roads safer and better for everyone, the HCVA want to make sure that they don’t overlook the implications of this new bill on historic and classic vehicles. As part of their response, the HCVA have requested three things.
The first is the exclusion of historic and classic vehicles from the new rules, with the rules only applying to new cars and not cars already on the road. They have also asked that any existing garages, engineers and owners as well as businesses in the sector are exempt from a requirement to enforce the new rules on historic vehicles.
The new bill would also allow any further changes to be made in the future without official guidance or secondary legislation, meaning that a discussion in Parliament can be avoided if there are any challenges. The HVCA have asked for the classic and historic vehicle sector to be safeguarded from these powers. This would mean that any changes that may hurt classic vehicles would need to go back to Parliament for a debate and vote.
The new bill also includes proposed ban on tampering. The ban aims to make it illegal to alter cars in any way that would impact the environment, road safety or security. It’s another positive step for improving our roads but it could have some implications for classic vehicle owners too. The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market, so the HVCA has asked that the Government consider a different way to solve the tampering issue or put in exclusions for the classic and historic vehicle sector.
The HCVA say they will continue to keep a close eye on the situation. Find out more about their response to the proposed bill on their website. "
So WTF are they trying to sneak through now, under cover of all that is currently going on/not being reported on ?????
" ...The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market,.... " .... additional lighting springs instantly to mind, roll bars, bull bars, tow bars??
I would think they are intelligent enough that all aftermarket components would just have to be of a Bs standard and obviously decat kits are never going to meet that standard.
I think mostly what they want to avoid is people removing the dpf and fitting noisy exhausts
Grahams
Don't complain - suggest what's better
They got away with Big Brother for covid lockdowns, so anything they can think to harass people is now on the agenda. If it were only about removing DPF systems and fitting mods that make the car unsafe to be on the road we already have the laws to stop that. Why would they need new laws apart from to cover more things. I always lightly modify my vehicles to make them more suited to my usage and why shouldn't I?
GazCro
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Technically mods unless manufacturer approved or supplied aren't legal anyway. It's more for the emissions mods/removal.think it's a bit more than that Gaz " The proposals could criminalise everything that is fitted to a vehicle after market, " consider uprating wheels and tyres to suit applications ... if they'm not std it would become illegal ... air suspension kits?? !!
Lancs Lad
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Can of worms ...they don't get that not everyone lives in flat no 248 in tower Hamlets and drives a milkfloat.
USA looks more inviting every day.
USA looks more inviting every day.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
be nice to think you're right Gaz, but as said , there are already plenty of rules governing that .... as also said, they've gotten away with imposing all sorts of draconian 'rules' recently, now they might be looking to 'up their game' and have sufficient cause to remove as many 'non compliant' vehicles off the roads A.S.A.P. ..... so invent a whole new set of goal posts to do so, pushing the leccy agenda even harder/faster to remove just about anything already out there ..... I doubt anyone here owns a 'standard' vehicle ??
JD450A
Feral as Fk 🐾
Personally I'd not like to let the clowns make any more laws or rules. There Unfit.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
intelligence has sweet FA to do with it .... we're talking Whitehall control and the imposition of a tiny minority's will on the populous in general
GazCro
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There are a lot of mods on older cars which can be argued to be improvements like bigger brakes better suspension etc and some even done as original replacement parts no longer available so i don't see how they can suddenly take those cars off the road. I'll be honest newer vehicles those kind of improvements don't really exist for a road going vehicle. Tbh a big chunk of that law change already exists so its a bit like shutting the gate after the horse has bolted. It'll be the emissions that'll be the big clampdown but they'll need stricter mot testing on emissions first.
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6feetdown
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Yet again bypassing parliament
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Smiffy
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Brilliant when they control it to the point you can't fit a lorry body as its aftermarket
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