Lancs Lad
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What's with the big lads all running big tracs and low loaders on their sites? Mannery and flurphy etc...all on white with onlicenses? Or exempt?
hiluxman
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I've recently got an 18t grab wagon, legally carries 10t. Wish I'd done it sooner.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
no issue ON SITE
JD450A
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A lot of bypass/road jobs will incorporate existing roads as the worksite.....
All very odd
Lancs Lad
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Sactly on the roads all time on jobs round here.A lot of bypass/road jobs will incorporate existing roads as the worksite.....
pettsy
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There’s two plant firms running fasttracks and plant trailers locally, and another with a big fendt. If I was an owner-op of a hgv doing the same work i’d Be savage.
doobin
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All it needs is a clear press release from the government and a couple of highly publicised prosecutions.
Furniss
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Ease up Graham still a bit of fight left in meage does that to you...... it's deciding when to pull the plug --- if you don't get it decided for you
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
ditto Kev .... til Aug. 22nd, 2010 ...... never know what's around the cornerEase up Graham still a bit of fight left in me
.....I was bullet proof and fit as a flea 'til that point .... lost over 4st, in 10 days and body shutting down initially ... did not think I was coming out
... I owe the medics a lot.I did ... but'd been considering a 'wind down' for some time - had stuff still to do, just bought a new house, and BANG! all changed overnight, as good as
Would've much preferred it be my decision, at my own pace and timing.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
if it's live to traffic they have to comply with reg.s - end of ......A lot of bypass/road jobs will incorporate existing roads as the worksite.....
A465 here has been on going for years .... one stretch they were running loaded ADTs and traccy/dump combis. .......
Ministry turned up with plod and closed 'em down for a week or more whilst they built a haul rd alongside the road ...
there were also prosecutions for running red, loaded plant on rebated fuel, non license holders, tachos, etc., etc. to say nowt of roadworthiness issues
sadly it was not well publicised or documented, or a lot around here'd have sh1t themselves, otherwise
JD450A
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Depends. Some jobs will take full possession of set roads.... Often only bypass jobs. Road will still be open but it's management entirely at the whim of the project.
I know the road your on about, my understanding is it was due to distances involved and the fact the entire road was not in possession.
V8Druid
do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
semi correct ... running 2/3rds - 1mile and in live traffic .... fact remains they got hammered for it ... and rightly so - haul rd was in the spec. ... they were cutting corners
CPS
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hiluxman
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If its a 3.5t gvw tractor unit then yes with your pre 2013 b+e licence (if the trailer is rated at 3500kg or less then any b+e can drive it)
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Justme
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That depends on what licence you have & when you got it & the MAM MLPM & GTW.
I know I can drive it.
JD450A
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Urban artics are the biggest clusterfuck going and best avoided.
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Smiffy
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Why so ??
I got the impression they where better from driver and operator point of view than wagon and drag, at least on brick and block work.
And think a 25ft triple steer low loader trailer would trump an 8 wheel beavertail for manoeuvrability.
I think an oil tanker could beat a 32t beavertail for manoeuvrability
JD450A
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A urban artic is not a artic.... 25ft artic carrying a 8 leg beavertail is a artic, same with tankers.
Urban artics are anything with a tractive unit under 18t, typically on either a single or tandem trailer and generally sitting at about 25t GTW. The reason they exist is really there Demountability and being able to carry a larger payload on a narrower lorry..... Trouble is sub 7.5t Urban artics aren't really worth a toss, you need a O license for the trailer and a MOT for the trailer.... Even on a 3.5t urban tractor unit.
I've researched them several times.... Namely because I've been offered 3 separate 14t Volvo FL220 tractor units and trailers (should of brought the first one) Basically unless your interested in carrying heavy long material your better off with a rigid.
Urban artics are anything with a tractive unit under 18t, typically on either a single or tandem trailer and generally sitting at about 25t GTW. The reason they exist is really there Demountability and being able to carry a larger payload on a narrower lorry..... Trouble is sub 7.5t Urban artics aren't really worth a toss, you need a O license for the trailer and a MOT for the trailer.... Even on a 3.5t urban tractor unit.
I've researched them several times.... Namely because I've been offered 3 separate 14t Volvo FL220 tractor units and trailers (should of brought the first one) Basically unless your interested in carrying heavy long material your better off with a rigid.
S
Smiffy
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Oh right I always thought they where mini arctics and thought of urban arctics as the
32t+ setups running super short with twin or triple powersteered axles
Apart from brewery's I've not actually seen the sub 25t ones in person.
JD450A
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Na, just a artic them.
Baby trailers behind proper artics are awesome BUT you can sometimes get in places you can't escape from if your cocky.
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