doobin
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Driving very gently with maybe 300kg of tools in the back, no trailer- I can get 33/34mpg.
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Smiffy
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I'd vote defender over discovery. The side opening rear door is much better to work out of than the silly fabric covered electric half tailgate.
Or the new landcruiser. Nowhere near as much go but the upside is it's not a landrover.
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Brendan
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I don't break 30 with just me in it and sub 50kg in the back. That's not hammering it either and sticking to speed limits, I don't do any of that "hyper miling" I just stick the speed limiter on and hold around that speed, maybe that doesn't help but who knows
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Brendan
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New shape defender will be way out of budget, probably be low 20k and then put the difference towards finishing parts of the extension. I've been looking at the 3.0 sd6 nearly 100bhp more and 200nm torque more the biggest issue is the land rover badge and associated constantly breaking down image but like most things it's the bad ones you hear about and plenty with no major issues.
there's been times towing the 8026 where the ranger just doesn't have enough power to get up to speed quickly if your pulling out onto something like an a road at the bottom of a hill
hiluxman
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They are working trucks, fill them up and put more in when its low.
These things are not designed for economy, its alot lower down on the list of importance as it would be with a standard car ect. When they design them
You've also to think if your using it for work then surely the customer is paying all or at least part of the fuel bill.
I'd not let 6/7/8/9mpg put me off buying the the truck I prefer.
These things are not designed for economy, its alot lower down on the list of importance as it would be with a standard car ect. When they design them
You've also to think if your using it for work then surely the customer is paying all or at least part of the fuel bill.
I'd not let 6/7/8/9mpg put me off buying the the truck I prefer.
doobin
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Brendan
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It's more the power situation, or it's a case of switching to the 3.0 v6 pickup
For the majority of this year I've just not needed to put much in the back there's been a handful of times I've put the breaker in the back and anytime I actually need to get anything it's too big or awkward to fit in the tub so requires taking a trailer.
I know theres commercial versions but I do need more than 2 seats. Which brings it back full circle to what 4x4's will tow 3.5t of which there is no 3.5t 4x4 vans
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6feetdown
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And a van is way more practical.
I miss my transit when I have to use the tipper or ranger
hiluxman
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It's all subjective to your work tho.
My iveco panel van is sat neglected because it doesn't fit my needs totally with what I'm doing currently.
Brought the d4 out of hibernation today ready for the next few weeks tasks...
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6feetdown
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Yeah true
doobin
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They also have 4500kg licenses though IIRC?
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Brendan
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Tool theft must not be as bad either as those are all rammed to the hilt would take a fair few hours a week loading and unloading
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Smiffy
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From what I've seen on that group, tool theft is still a problem but they park them in garages. And they can fit them on the site.
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6feetdown
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Yeah you wouldn't want to leave that out of sight whilst your working it would be on the back of a transit before you knew it
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Maxus
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I do think that regulations around weight limits should be relaxed, izuzu grafter in japan is a 5t gross weight vehicle, in the UK the vehicle is the same other than the transmission and smaller brake discs, and of course plated at 3.5T to conform to UK regs. It would be much safer if we had the japanese version over here as people will inevitability over load given the size of the pickup bed.
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Smiffy
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Where do you stop though. As if you up the limit to 5t people will just run at 6t.
I think it's fair enough having an o license over 3.5t. probably shout have it for all commercial vehicles. What really needs to be addressed is the stupid criteria for running tachos. It should be tacho exempt upto 18t if driving is less than 40percent of your daily tasks. As it is it is nigh on impossible to be completely legit if you don't drive a lorry every day and for you sole job.
craig
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It will never happen, just saying its less than 40% of your tacks is open to too much abuse. I don't know what the answer would be either.
craig
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The thing is when towing with a sub 3500kg vehicle, sticking another 3500kg behind it, it going to be a bit sluggish its a 100%+ weight increase, Manufactures build to what the market wants, just look at the number of pickups on the road with no towbar.
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6feetdown
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I definitely think 7.5t truck should be able to tow 3.5t trailer without upgrading the licence. It has to be way safer than 3.5 pulling 3.5
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