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V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Does nothing at present....
get it to switch a relay, controlling the gripper function then ..
route the tilt control through the normally closed contacts and the gripper control through the normally open contacts ... when the relay is energised it'll disconnect the tilt function and engage the gripper's function control - job done

I used my horn button on lil' jake to control my grab function .. with a double acting switch (basically the same thing/idea) one way is horn/other way is a 6x2 diverter to switch from crowd to grab - didn't have a spare button to use and just leave it switched to the 6x2
 
Furniss

Furniss

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get it to switch a relay, controlling the gripper function then ..
route the tilt control through the normally closed contacts and the gripper control through the normally open contacts ... when the relay is energised it'll disconnect the tilt function and engage the gripper's function control - job done

I used my horn button on lil' jake to control my grab function .. with a double acting switch (basically the same thing/idea) one way is horn/other way is a 6x2 diverter to switch from crowd to grab - didn't have a spare button to use and just leave it switched to the 6x2
and no ctops were harmed in any way 😎
 
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Maxus

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Thankyou for all the suggestions, I do get the distinct impression that health and safety is an excuse, I made it very clear when speccing the tilty i wanted the button on the joystick, it's in the email chains, and I explained to the installer exactly how I wanted it set up. I've got a 7 day newborn baby that I'm currently in the midst of dealing with - so my mind is very much on other things!!

I will make these suggestions and see if can get anywhere with someone higher up the chain...
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
Sounds like the installer can’t be arsed making it happen. In your user manual what does it say that button is for? It’ll be fitted to perform a function in certain markets (quick hitch etc) - if you can find which fuse that should control then you can pick up a feed from there.
or alternatively disconnect it from it's current circuit in the boot/arm rest - run a feed to it and thence to a relay, from the switch (as previous suggestion) - run the feed to the 'wiper' contact on the relay's base and feeds from there to the tilt (normally closed pole)/gripper (normally open pole) controller's connections - job done
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
or alternatively disconnect it from it's current circuit in the boot/arm rest - run a feed to it and thence to a relay, from the switch (as previous suggestion) - run the feed to the 'wiper' contact on the relay's base and feeds from there to the tilt (normally closed pole)/gripper (normally open pole) controller's connections - job done
this should've posted and hour ago ----- just as the bugger BSOD-ed AGAIN :mad::mad::mad:
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
If this is supposed to be a demo model of a new flagship product, I’d expect them to put a bit more effort into the install tbh.
absolutely .... pretty crap service/effort on the installer's part ... not rocket science
 
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Monkeybusiness

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or alternatively disconnect it from it's current circuit in the boot/arm rest - run a feed to it and thence to a relay, from the switch (as previous suggestion) - run the feed to the 'wiper' contact on the relay's base and feeds from there to the tilt (normally closed pole)/gripper (normally open pole) controller's connections - job done
They often run at 5v in the joystick (canbus) and aren’t great at triggering solenoids ime.
 
V8Druid

V8Druid

do it as well as you can,but learn to do it better
They often run at 5v in the joystick (canbus) and aren’t great at triggering solenoids ime.
hence disconnect from existing circuit - give it a 12v feed, with a (switched - by said button) 12v supply coming from it to 12v double acting relay to power the necessary in the tilty's controllers(y)
 
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Maxus

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If this is supposed to be a demo model of a new flagship product, I’d expect them to put a bit more effort into the install tbh.
I'm suprised tbh. Can I just check, it's not abnormal, or unreasonable to have the switch on the joystick?
 
Grahams

Grahams

Don't complain - suggest what's better
Anyone got any ideas about where to put the switch to toggle between tilt and grab? Apparently the button on the joystick can't be used (encased in resin apparently).... they've put one on the control panel, meaning I'll have to take my hand off the joystick to activate... would a foot pedal be better?
In my small walker the joystick buttons were all in use, so stuck a row of extra buttons to the side (see picture). Tried momentary buttons, but ended up with on/off. Just encased in heat shrink (not shrunken over the actual buttons) for protection and wire run down the outside and into the boot. Wasn't the best looking, but worked well.
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